Opinions on the Savage 111FCXP3

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What are your opinions on the Savage package at SIR of this gun. I was thinking of getting this gun in .300 win mag. My question mostly concerns the difference between this and the savage with the accutrigger which besides that apprear to be the same gun only its $100 cheaper and includes an okay scope.

I have also looked at the Stevens 200.

What is the standard trigger pull on these rifles?

Thanks for your responses.
 
i was looking at this same gun at SIR. i actually placed an order for one in .30-06, but they are on backorder. a friend of mine actually seems to have gotten their last .30-06 before they ran out.

i switched my order to the stainless in .308 for $600. i prefer the .308 to the .30-06, the rifle was stainless, it had the Accutrigger, and i would replace the cheap scope and mounts anyways (see my 'is the Simmons 8-Point a complete POS?' thread in the optics forum).
another option is to buy the plain Stevens in the caliber you choose for $300, but it is not stainless and no Accutrigger.

the savage non-Accutrigger models still feature an adjustable trigger which is not difficult to adjust, however - after quite a bit of research on the pre-Accutrigger Savage trigger ive decided that the Accutrigger is really the best solution, mainly because of the following:
Because of the limited mechanical advantage (the trigger bears against sear which is bearing against the main spring) the factory trigger cannot be safely adjusted below 3-5 (experts vary) pounds. After market triggers do better but the placement of the sear forward of the trigger make design of low pull weight triggers problematic.
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examining the Savage trigger myself i can certainly see what they mean. with the Accutrigger in about 5 minutes i adjusted the trigger down to the minimum of 1.5lbs with the adjustment tool they provide. messing around with the naked trigger group i can see how - without the Accutrigger - a Savage trigger adjusted down to 1.5 lbs could easily discharge if the gun were dropped or even bumped hard. That said im glad i got the Accutrigger, its not only an excellent accuracy aid but also an insurance policy.
 
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This has come up quite a bit in the last month or so so do some searching.

Here is a link on the same topic http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187666

If I were you I'd probly go for the stevens 200 its basically the same gun with a stock that isnt quite as nice as the savage, but the extra you save you can buy a good scope instead of the just "okay" one that comes on the combo 111.

Also if you happen to decide on the Stevens you can make it way better looking by sanding and painting the stock. Do some more searching there is pleanty of people who have been doing it on here

Have fun and Good luck :)
 
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here is an article on the pre-Accutrigger Savage trigger:
w ww.switchbarrel.com/Savage%20110%20Trigger%20Adjustment.htm

btw i retract my statement in that other thread that gonecountry just linked -- i think the accutrigger is worth the extra money.
 
I have a model 12 savage with an accu trigger and love it. If you are going to try your hand at precision shooting, you will need an after market trigger such as Rifle Basix or the like. The trigger on the non accu trigger and Stevens 200 are good for most deer and moose hunting scenarios it will not hamper you. Now if you want an el crappo trigger that you have to compensate big time for trigger pull I have a winchester model 88 for you!

I would say buy the Stevens and get a different scope.

Richie
 
they're ok, the scope is crap and so are the mounts

triggers are ok, nothing great

flexible POS stocks too
 
.... and the Mickey Mouse magazine latch on the rear of the mag is prone to
break off ... only a folded-over piece of the magazine body steel.

The two that I have shot ... one an 'o6 the other a 7mm RM both shot well at 100 ... slightly over an inch with factory stuff. The trigger pull was reasonable (non "accu-trigger" ) ... but agree the scope/mount could be upgraded considerably.

On the other hand, good value for the minimal $$.
 
I bought a used 300WM 111FCXP3 less the scope. I put a used Leupold scope, Ken Farrel base, Burris zee rings and a Sharp Shooter Supply trigger on the gun. Its a great gun for hunting. I'd say either buy the package gun (removable mag is great) and when you can afford it replace the scope and trigger or buy the Stevens (fixed mag0 in the same calibre and go right to a decent scope. I can't comment on the accutrigger as I've never tried one. The trigger that comes with the package gun is fairly heavy pull, but certainly usable. Watch for contact between the barrel and the fairly flexible foreend of the stock. You might have to sand or file it out for clearance, otherwise pressure on the foreend can effect the point of aim. I'm waiting for a Boyds stock I have on order to replace the plastic one.

Beretta Boy, the package guns come with the old style detachable mag, the kind with the button on the side of the stock, not the newest style made by Savage. I heard some people hate the old button position. Doesn't bother me at all.
 
What I use as my beanfield rifle in 7RM and a muzzle brake. I did change out the trigger for a SSS unit. I like light trigger pulls. I wanted a det mag and the new style in the Savage didn't exist yet.

The scope is functional - that's about it.

The stock must be bedded and forend opened WAY up for max performance. Mine is shooting 1/2 MOA at 200yds with handloads. I have no issue hitting milk jug sized rocks out to 900yds.

Great value but if you want to swap the trigger group anyways, the Accutrigger is a superb unit. About the same cost.

Jerry
 
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Beretta Boy, the package guns come with the old style detachable mag, the kind with the button on the side of the stock, not the newest style made by Savage. I heard some people hate the old button position. Doesn't bother me at all.
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The current production guns do have the bottom release now. I bought mine last year and it has the bottom release mag.
 
Bottom release mag ... take the mag out ... look closely at the rear of the mag, upper edge .... you'll see a folded-over piece of metal ... yep, that's the culprit ! Some break off ... mag won't stay in the gun ! Replacement mags aren't the easiest to get your hands on.
 
I have shot the 111FCXP3. This one was a few years old, it had the older style mag release. I thought it was ok, fairly light. The stock must be made from old gumby dolls, though.
Another buddy recently picked up a 11FCNS(haven't had the pleasure of shooting it yet), same thing only in .308, with DM and accutrigger, no scope though. Which is ok, cause he is putting a Bushnell on it. Can't see you going wrong with either or the Stevens. Personally, I'd get a 111FCNS in .30-06 and top it with decent optics and do something about the stock.
 
I purchased this rifle in the 7mm rem mag. Its accurate (lots of posts on many forums to attest to this) but I am definatly going to do some work on it. The gun needs a decent recoil pad, some trigger work done, and a new scope. However, once this is all done, I can see using this rifle for many years to put meat on the table.

This thing kicks harder than a mule!! In fact, way more so than my fathers 300 win mag. Nice to have the light weight when walking around in the bush, but not very nice to shoot at the range.

The scope, mounts, and rings are not worth anything. Take them off the gun and throw them away.

Regards,

Warren
 
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