Optic help, Mepro MOR vs comp m4

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Hey guys I'm looking at getting a optic for my iur. shooting mostly within 200y, but later maybe out to 3 or 4 at that point 3x magna maybe be in order, Im looking at a mepro mor I like the fact that it's not looking down a tube and a laser is in it, and it's always on, but im looking for imput on if anyone has used one before and what your thoughts are on it it does say it has a 4.3moa dot or a 3moa can't remember "bullseye". Not many reviews on that are in the users hands just promotional ones. kinda would wish it was a 2 or a 1 moa, I've always like eotechs. There feild of view and again it's not looking down a tube. But with everything that went on just have a bad taste in my mouth with what happen "not the product". Now the other optic that is on the table is the aimpoint comp m4. I know it's a tube. Will I get used to it after awhile and not look back or will the field of view bug me. Looking for imput really appreciate it. I haven't seen a MOR in person just the comp m4, thanks for the help really appreciate it.

Brodie
 
I have owned the Aimpoint and currently own the MOR (dual laser model). I absolutely love the MOR. Almost perfect. The fibre optic light gathering is the best in the business. Far better than almost any ACOG (my TA33 is pretty damn impressive). It is almost impossible to create a condition that washes out the reticle. But there is battery backup with different levels of intensity. At the brightest level, it's like looking into the sun. No other dot I have ever used is as bright.

The battery backup actually consists of two batteries but only draws on one at a time. The second one is for redundancy. So for reliability, you have the fibre optic which is good for most conditions and the battery for all other conditions and a backup battery. The batteries also run the lasers. The red laser is very bright. About 25m in the sun. At least 200m in low light conditions. The lasers are both slaved to the reticle. The IR performs well out to 100m (the furthest I tested it).

The reticle on mine is a segmented circle with a centre dot. This is where the biggest issue arises. The dot is just too big for any "precision" work. At 100m, the dot just covers up too much real estate. Sure 8" plates are a breeze, but don't expect to win any competitions at 100m. Also, the segmented circle is too tight and therefore covers up some of certain types of targets at 100m. I did happen to notice something which helps. If I zero the rifle (in my case a Tavor) at 100m using the top of the circle segment, the target isn't really covered anymore. And coincidently, the dot is then perfect for a 25m zero. Your results may vary with ammo and rifle combos. With a 3x magnifier, I get "combat accuracy". The tritium on the MOR is very bright. But it will slowly fade.

The aimpoint is a fine optic. It isn't heavy, durable (although I haven't done any crazy drop tests on either), great battery life and a much more precise dot than the MOR. Nothing fancy. No bells and whistles.

If your looking to shoot at 200m, go with the aimpoint. Actually, the aimpoint can do most of the important stuff that is required. The visible laser on the MOR isn't really useful for range work. Nor is the IR laser, although it is a nice feature. Ask yourself if you run around with NVG. If not, than the IR is useless too. Then there is the price. While the aimpoint is overpriced (IMHO), it is far cheaper than the MOR version I have ($1600+).

To me, the IR laser, dual battery backup for all reticle conditions, excellent fibre optic, and the tritium were more important to me than dot size (The MOR bullseye reticle is stellar at CQB ranges). It's on a rifle that isn't meant for precision. I loathe batteries and the MOR (and lots of Trijicon optics) eliminate the reliance on them. Have you batteries dying at inopportune moments really sucks. I vowed to never have it happen again. The MOR is built with multiple redundant systems. It won't leave you high and dry.

The perfect red dot optic would be my MOR with a 2MOA dot and cheaper.

So my rambling is done. You are probably going to love the aimpoint. You won't notice the tube effect if you keep both eyes open, like the red dots is how they are intended to be used.
 
If you want precision, you're better off with the Mepro RDS Pro with 1.8 MOA dot. You can always add a Mepro STING laser aiming device if you need Vis Laser/IR.


 
Thanks alot. How's is the MoR size. And I'm not really looking for precision but I'd like to hit a 8 inch target at 300 yards. And maybe a 10 inch at 400. How and how is it for co-witness with irons is it possible "Troy's". Thanks
 
It's bigger than an EOTech, but not too large.

As for hitting an 8" plate at 300, I don't think the MOR is best suited for it. The dot is just too big. Co-witnessing irons is fine with my Tavor.
 
Thanks for everyone's help I have one last question regarding the life expectancy of the tritium in the MOR do the batteries back it up and after the life of it does it just run on battery or can/do u get it re- tritium. Thanks Brodie
 
I believe that the half life of tritium is 12 years. So after 12 years, it will be half as bright as it originally was, and after 24 years, it will be 1/4 of its original brightness.

I know that Trijicon does replace tritium upon request, but I'm told it isn't cheap. Not sure if Meprolight offers the same service. The batteries are a backup to this.

In all honesty, the tritium is only really useful in complete darkness, otherwise the fibre optic gathers enough light. In total darkness, 1/4 reticle brightness (after 24 years), is still more than enough. But having the battery backup is a nice option. And the fibre optic illumination seems to last forever as long as it isn't damaged.
 
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