Optimal Bullet Weight

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Each calibre must have one bullet weight that, killing power aside, produces superior ballistics vs. heavier or lighter bullets.

I have a 30/06 and think the 165 gr is the optimal all-around bullet weight for this calibre. In the 270 it's the 130 gr.

What is the "Optimal All-Around" bullet weight for cartridges you own?

Clayster
 
Good question, although I'm sure rate of twist, barrel length, and powder charge determines the optimal weight for each caliber.

Alot of factors at play
 
.257 (25-06)- 117gr
.308 (308 Win) - 150gr
(30-06) - 180gr
(300 Win) - 180gr
.366 (9.3x62) - 286gr
.416 (Rigby) - 400gr
.458 (458 Win) - 500gr
(45-70 BPCR) - 535gr
(45-70 Cast) - 420gr
(45-70 Jacketed) - 350gr
 
Good question, although I'm sure rate of twist, barrel length, and powder charge determines the optimal weight for each caliber.

Alot of factors at play

Well said.

Having said that, I like to use what is ideal for some, and what is traditional for others. Some I have no reason at all, it just seemed like a good idea at the time. Ideal is not always the only way to get a job done.

25Rem 117gr RN
250-3000 87gr but trying like crazy to get 100gr to work. Just because.
7x57 154gr Hornady Sp and RN
30-40 Krag 220gr Hornady
30-06 200gr KKSP
9,3x57 285gr
 
Ahhh....the good old 1:14 twist? Try the new 80 gr TTSX from Barnes.


I would buddy but that's where the "traditional" part comes into play.:redface:
If there was a 100gr roundnose available we'd be laughing. Western had a 100gr open point load in 1932 so they must have found a way to make them work.
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Barnes are for those with deeper pockets than I have.;)
 
Me, I like the following:

130 gr in .270
140 gr in 6.5x55mm
140 gr in 7mm-08
150 gr in .308 Win
160 gr in 7x57mm
165 gr in .30-06
170 gr in .30-30
180 gr in .300 Win Mag
300 gr in .45-70

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NAA.
 
45 gr. in .22 hornet
50 gr. in .222
100 Gr. in .250 sav.
120 gr. in 25-06
160 gr. in 7x57
175 gr. in 7x57R
160 gr. in 7x64
165 gr. in 308
180 gr. in 30-06
158 gr. in .357 mag
250 gr. in 35 Whelen
405 gr. in 45-70
that's what's worked best for me, strictly for hunting not targets.
 
The problem is, "optimal," is a subjective word. Sometimes what is great for one purpose is lousy for another, but each has its place. That is why there are always multiple bullet weights for each cartridge. And is one reason why the 30-06 is often preferred over the .308W, a better variety of heavier bullets available.
A text book example of vastly different weight bullets being optimal for a cartridge, is the old 6.5 Mauser. In the meat hunting, homestead years of northern Canada, when wild meat was shot year around for people to live on, a 6.5 Mauser had a great reputaion as a moose killer. The bullet that made that reputation for it, in fact the only bullet weight for it made by the only cartridge manufacturing company in Canada, Dominion Ammunition, was the looong, 160 grain round nose.
However, if one were going antelope hunting, or deer hunting where long shots were expected, no hunter would choose the 6.5 if the only bullet available was the 160 grain round nose. The same rifle loaded hot with about a 117 grain pointed bullet would be near ideal for those long shots on lighter game.
 
I hunt deer, moose and elk and use 165's in my .308.

I don't know about "superior ballistics" but I don't want to have to swap between 150's and 180's on the fly (without resighting) when going from deer to moose/elk so I split it down the middle and sighted my rifles in.

So far so good!
 
I guess it all depends on what you're shooting and the distance as well as the bullet you'll choose. "They" say that for distances to 400 yds, a MV of 2700-2800 fps works wonderfully with respect to MPBR and bullet performance. I think then that for common 30 cals you'd be looking at:

308 - 165gr
30/06 - 180gr
300 Win Mag - 200 gr
300 RUM - 220gr+
 
There's no free lunch when it comes to ballistics. There is a whole lot of overlap in terminal performance though.
 
Not sure about everyone else, but my rifles seem to pick there own weight, optimal or not. My first 7mm rem mag was the most accurate with 140's, but the one i currently own likes 160's, and my father shoots nothing but 175's.
 
Thanks Guys,

Just what I was looking for!

I knew this was going raise some discussion over "What is Optimal", but I know that some calibre's perform better with different weights. I can't recall a 270 owner telling me he prefered the 150 to the 130, yet I know of no one with a 30/06 who would prefer the 150 to the 165. It just works better!
 
The problem is, "optimal," is a subjective word. Sometimes what is great for one purpose is lousy for another, but each has its place. That is why there are always multiple bullet weights for each cartridge. And is one reason why the 30-06 is often preferred over the .308W, a better variety of heavier bullets available.
A text book example of vastly different weight bullets being optimal for a cartridge, is the old 6.5 Mauser. In the meat hunting, homestead years of northern Canada, when wild meat was shot year around for people to live on, a 6.5 Mauser had a great reputaion as a moose killer. The bullet that made that reputation for it, in fact the only bullet weight for it made by the only cartridge manufacturing company in Canada, Dominion Ammunition, was the looong, 160 grain round nose.
However, if one were going antelope hunting, or deer hunting where long shots were expected, no hunter would choose the 6.5 if the only bullet available was the 160 grain round nose. The same rifle loaded hot with about a 117 grain pointed bullet would be near ideal for those long shots on lighter game.

Well said there is no such thing as optimal bullet weight for a calibre unless you define a task for example least affected by wind drift, flatest trajectory or most accurate for a defined twist
 
I think by optimal the TS meant taking everything into consideration. Obviously there will be a trade-off, but what strikes the best balance. It is kind of like saying the .375 H&H is the greatest all-around cartridge ever made (by the way this is a scientifically proven fact).
 
Thanks Guys,

Just what I was looking for!

I knew this was going raise some discussion over "What is Optimal", but I know that some calibre's perform better with different weights. I can't recall a 270 owner telling me he prefered the 150 to the 130, yet I know of no one with a 30/06 who would prefer the 150 to the 165. It just works better!

Just thought I'd say, I like the 150s in the 270 over 130s. My 06s allways shoot 180s. As someone said, a decent BC and 27-2800 fps and you've got all the range you need. That said my primary Deer gun shoots 7 mm 160s at just about 3300.
 
I think "optimal" implies ballistically the most efficient.
Here goes:
.30 cal: 165 grain
.284 cal 140 grain
.277 cal 130 grain
.264 cal(6.5mm) 120 grain
.257 cal 100 grain

A lot of this is dependant on individual rifling twist, but these are generally my picks.
 
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