ORA CQB Clinic 3 - Stats and AAR

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CQB match (Clinic) HPS 550

1st 437 Capncrunch
2nd 428 Tritium
3rd 408 Camaro
407 Smith 629
390 Hawking
380 Snapshot
375 PH Racing (shot entire CofF with pistol)
374 Mel_ester
368 RustyB
346 DirtyFecker
338 Thorvald
331 emeyer3
324 Thomas
319 Quickid
317 Joeonepack (J)
315 JRW (QOR)
284 Beaver
282 Tharkadl
277 Joeonepack (K)
244 TH


Participants please post pictures, videos and funny stories below.

(Any hey, I was not there so no fair picking on me today :D)
 
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Thorvald said:
We still did though :).
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Most thoroughly.:dancingbanana:



Great day guys. Hard to do justice with words to what was taught, learned and gained on this course.

Awesome organized(Tim) as always, great event.

Awesome instructors(Pat and Earl) You will learn more from these guys in a half hr of dry fire, than a day spent wasting ammo on bad habits at the range.

Awesome fellowship......you don't need any encouragement, you know who you are.

To sum it all up...........Wow what a fun, knowledge packed, well spent day.

I would say that you have to experience it to understand but since next years clinics are already fully booked, those who missed it will just have to take my word for it.
 
Popped by on Sunday in time for the start of the match portion to show my daughters what Daddy does at Borden and to get photographic evidence. Thought I should share

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COSTA!

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The instructors get to play

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See the really short carbine on the left?

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Here is a vid of Match #2 with one of our favorite miscreants. Humble bugger as you will hear at the end. He is pretty though eh?

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Oh, and the "trimmed" in the video refers to the length, not Flecker himself thought he has been getting all buffed up for the upcoming Service season.
 
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Gotta love that Costa pose! :D

Great fun was had it looks like! Good work! What no helmets for the bullets "zinging" by? :eek:

Looks like DirtyFecker has been working out! Crossfit, baby!

Cheers,
Barney
 
Instructing!

I've been friends with Pat for years and this was the first time that we actually instructed together. We've shot together and talked about guns, training, kit, etc but it was a real pleasure to teach with him. His instructional abilities are awesome!

I thoroughly enjoyed the weekend and had an amazing time! Made some new friends, had some laughs and got to impart some knowledge and help.

I learned a lot about the sport and will definitely be participating when I can.

I also owe a big thanks to TimK for trusting me and my instructional abilities and for giving me the opportunity to work with you all!

E.
 
It was a great weekend and an awesome experience getting to both work with the shooters and instruct with Earl. When we talked earlier this year and the opportunity to work with Earl presented itself I jumped at it. I was curious and very excited to see how we'd work together with us having very different backgrounds in shooting. I've been involved with this clinic for 3 years now and I don't think I'd want to do it again without Earl involved...lol
You guys were great, it was a real pleasure talking and working with you over the weekend.
I have to echo Earl and thank TimK for all the work that goes into putting both the clinic and the whole CQB program together. It's never easy to run a sporting event, especially one as unique as CQB, never mind all the struggles getting it off the ground. I have to thank him for letting us come out and work you guys. It has been just a fantastic experience.
Btw everything we did was completely unscripted. While we talked about working together on this, we had never discussed the actual instruction. I think it worked out pretty well!
 
tritium said:
I've been friends with Pat for years and this was the first time that we actually instructed together. We've shot together and talked about guns, training, kit, etc but it was a real pleasure to teach with him. His instructional abilities are awesome!

I thoroughly enjoyed the weekend and had an amazing time! Made some new friends, had some laughs and got to impart some knowledge and help.

I learned a lot about the sport and will definitely be participating when I can.

I also owe a big thanks to TimK for trusting me and my instructional abilities and for giving me the opportunity to work with you all!

E.
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Hmmm, you come to your first CQB, and win SECOND PLACE!!!!:eek:

Definitely enjoyed and learned a lot from the both of you, now just have to remember that jingle...
 
PH Racing said:
It was a great weekend and an awesome experience getting to both work with the shooters and instruct with Earl. When we talked earlier this year and the opportunity to work with Earl presented itself I jumped at it. I was curious and very excited to see how we'd work together with us having very different backgrounds in shooting. I've been involved with this clinic for 3 years now and I don't think I'd want to do it again without Earl involved...lol
You guys were great, it was a real pleasure talking and working with you over the weekend.
I have to echo Earl and thank TimK for all the work that goes into putting both the clinic and the whole CQB program together. It's never easy to run a sporting event, especially one as unique as CQB, never mind all the struggles getting it off the ground. I have to thank him for letting us come out and work you guys. It has been just a fantastic experience.
Btw everything we did was completely unscripted. While we talked about working together on this, we had never discussed the actual instruction. I think it worked out pretty well!
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I will be attending again next year. Not a reflection of your teaching, my inability to get it through my skull. Takes a couple of hammer hits.

Definitely great experience.

Oh, and loved the stories!
 
Excellent work by TimK, his helpers and the instructors. It was a really good weekend of shooting and training.

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eta: I really admire Pat's solution to not having a carbine... just shoot it all with pistol. :eek:
Note to self: most of us could not get away with this.
 
JRW (QOR) said:
Hmmm, you come to your first CQB, and win SECOND PLACE!!!!:eek:
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Ahh, he is a pro and MOST of us ain't.

JRW (QOR) said:
I will be attending again next year. Not a reflection of your teaching, my inability to get it through my skull. Takes a couple of hammer hits.
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We all probably missed some of what was passed out just from shear mental saturation and fatigue. I know I was pretty spent by the end of Saturday. This was my second time with Pat at a clinic. A second run is worth it for sure.

I might like to try it with the pistol alone for fun some time too if the MD says okay. Should be good for a laugh. Hmmmm, I'll need more mags
 
The two big issues with using the pistol only through the CoF was #1 the number of mags needed. I think you'd need 8 to 10 to pull it off without too much delay and you'd have to know which are 5 rounders, 4 rounders and 3 rounders depending on which matches you will be shooting. Issue #2 is scoring and this would apply if you used a pistol caliber carbine too if it's the same caliber as your secondary. You cannot tell which hits on the body of the target are from the "rifle" portion of the match and which are from the "pistol" portion. Probably not a big deal in the totals unless you miss the headshot and then Have to figure out which body hit get deducted for not connecting a shot in the upper scoring circles.
 
PH Racing said:
You cannot tell which hits on the body of the target are from the "rifle" portion of the match and which are from the "pistol" portion. Probably not a big deal in the totals unless you miss the headshot and then Have to figure out which body hit get deducted for not connecting a shot in the upper scoring circles.
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I had this problem shooting 9 and 7.62x39...
Unfortunately, I missed 3 of the 4 head shots in the first 3 courses of fire.
I did get the headshots in the last course, but i guess they were recorded improperly. Oh well, it wouldn't have helped much! At least I know have a bench mark to improve upon through the year!

thanks all for the fun, instruction, and tan!
 
PH Racing said:
Issue #2 is scoring and this would apply if you used a pistol caliber carbine too if it's the same caliber as your secondary. You cannot tell which hits on the body of the target are from the "rifle" portion of the match and which are from the "pistol" portion. Probably not a big deal in the totals unless you miss the headshot and then Have to figure out which body hit get deducted for not connecting a shot in the upper scoring circles.
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Good point. I had thought of that before. For that reason, and a lack of $2,000 plus tax, I have decided not to get a super kool Kriss Super V. But man, I got the wants for one.

A solution would be two pistols, one in 22 and then centre fire, but then you are for sure shooting only for fun (22 rimfire does not count for score) and frankly that is getting a bit too complicated for me. Plus rim fire brass is a PITA to pick up afterward.

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that after about 1 stage I would be saying "Jeese, I really wish I had a rifle" :D
 
Lol...all I was thinking was sorting out the point of impact (I was hitting a bit low) and trying again with the pistol to improve my score!
 
That was an awesome fun clinic. 'Cept the weather which is always a bee-hutch at Boredom. Good to see familar faces and some new ones too.
Earl and Pat are fantastic instructors and having them both there was stellar.
If I apply what both of them taught us my scores will certainly rise.
Earl taugh some carbine coolness that upped my carbine scores too.
If you guys get a chance to get some training from either of these guys, jump at the chance. If you get a chance for a course with both of them instructing, run to the line.
Kudos to TimK & Dave K once again for running things smooth as usual.
 
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