Order of operations: resize/anneal/turn??

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Just learning about the really high end reloading things to do, and I'm wondering what people's order of business is when doing what's listed above??

Thx

-J.
 
You anneal first. Sizing hardens the case.

Size.

Check length.

Trim if nessisary.

Lots and lots of steps in between if your reloading for precision. ;)
 
Mystic Precision said:
Clean, anneal, bump shoulder, clean, neck size, outside neck turn, trim and deburr

My process.

Jerry
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Question:

Is it more important to bump the neck before you turn, or to expand the neck with a no-bushing die before you turn??

Here's my problem - I have a Redding FL Type S dies, so to do my bump before I turn, I'll be putting the neck through a bushing as well, which is counter productive isn't it?? I am planning on getting a separate neck expanding die, but not a separate bushing-less neck bumper.

In my basic understanding if you don't bump the neck before you turn, your turning length won't be right, but if you don't expand the neck properly before you turn, then the depth of your cut wont be right.

Thanks,

-J.
 
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Gunneegoogoo said:
Question:

Is it more important to bump the neck before you turn, or to expand the neck with a no-bushing die before you turn??

Here's my problem - I have a Redding FL Type S dies, so to do my bump before I turn, I'll be putting the neck through a bushing as well, which is counter productive isn't it?? I am planning on getting a separate neck expanding die, but not a separate bushing-less neck bumper.

In my basic understanding if you don't bump the neck before you turn, your turning length won't be right, but if you don't expand the neck properly before you turn, then the depth of your cut wont be right.

Thanks,

-J.
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You "size" the neck, "bump" the shoulder....no big deal, just helping get your terminology down...

Anyway, best is to expand the neck, turn to the shoulder, then neck-size.
 
What if I'm FL resizing?? Can I just take the bushing out of my type s die to bump?

In my head is like to decap, then anneal, then start smooshing the brass around, but my FL die is also my decapper!!!
 
I'd suggest picking up a cheap decapping die if you want to pop that primer before getting in to it. Lee is likely the easiest to find, and works as intended. Good investment if you clean before brass prep
 
Gunneegoogoo said:
Question:

Is it more important to bump the neck before you turn, or to expand the neck with a no-bushing die before you turn??

Here's my problem - I have a Redding FL Type S dies, so to do my bump before I turn, I'll be putting the neck through a bushing as well, which is counter productive isn't it?? I am planning on getting a separate neck expanding die, but not a separate bushing-less neck bumper.

In my basic understanding if you don't bump the neck before you turn, your turning length won't be right, but if you don't expand the neck properly before you turn, then the depth of your cut wont be right.

Thanks,

-J.
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Whichever method you use to get to this point, you want the neck of the case to FIT that mandrel on your outside neck cutter PERFECTLY. Otherwise, you create more problems then you solve as you will cut an uneven neck.

The most common approach AFTER annealing, is to size in that bushing neck die THEN expand. The idea is get the ductility of the brass back to 'normal'. Size it down so you know ALL of the neck is smaller then desired. Expand back to what you want pushing the defects to the outside. The INSIDE of the neck is the same diameter as the mandrel so cutting is even and correct.

Whether you post neck size is entirely up to you and the neck tension you want. If you post neck size, you will need to use a different bushing... more then likely.

Whether you use a FL die or a neck sizer with a body die really doesn't matter as you are dealing with 2 separate sizing areas/steps. I personally use a Body die and neck sizer as I want to control each sizing operation to fit my end use goals. If your chamber allows you to use a FL bushing die, go for it.... you end up in the same spot with 1 vs 2 operations.

I skip alot of these steps by using a Lee collet neck die.

Jerry
 
Thx for the input Jerry. From what I'm reading if I anneal, then deprime/FL resize with my bushing die, the open the neck with the arbor die for the turner, then turn, then seat and if they're too sloppy retighten with the neck bushing - shound right??

Not that my opinion means much, but I'm gonna be getting a tumbler with stainless media. People love them.

-J.
 
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