Ordering a stock from the States, questions on how, how much?

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I have been in contact with a company in the states that sells carbon fibre stocks for the M14 platform rifles. When I asked if they could ship to Canada he called Customs (I think) and they told him no problem to ship from the States but Canadas laws were very restrictive and they might not allow it in Canada??
My understanding was that the seller had to have a permit to ship to Canada and there was a $500.00 USD limit?
Don't want to order one and lose it at the border!! Tried Google, not much help it seems. Anyone here can offer some guidance on this issue?

Copy of response from stock supplier :
"I spoke with the US Customs Department and the agency responsible for licensing firearm exports and they said there are no restrictions on shipping a stock to you.# They indicated that Canada has fairly restrictive import regulations around firearms and firearm components, though, and recommended that I make sure that you have all of your ducks in a row, so to speak.
So, it looks like on my side there are no limitations on shipping a stock to you.# If you’d like to purchase one, please let me know."

I'm not sure what this means but seems contrary to what I have heard in the past.
Rodney
 
I heard from someone that one company in the USA was shipping stocks up here and the declaration said wooden sporting tool. I got a stock from the USA but it was shipped to an address in the USA and I picked it up and brought it home. I also declared my intents when I crossed into the USA and again informed Canada customs I have a rifle stock in the truck I bought. They did want to see it and I was on my way.
 
The canadian customs will let you bring in anything that is legal for you to own as long as you declare it. From my past experience the canada side is actually very lienient when bringing things in. I think they have their info backwards. Typically it's the US that doesn't like letting things out of the country without proper paperwork and clearance and what not. Some vendors can ship accross the border, some can't. You will definitely be paying some canadian tax on a $500 stock which is not a big deal. My main concern would be if the vendor on the US side has jumped through the proper hoops to be able to ship to canada. If they are a reputable dealer and say they can ship to you go for it as long as they have a money back guarantee. I'm fairly certain that canada customs will not give you problems. If a problem arises it will be on the US side.

Are you talking about McMillan?
 
45ACPKING said:
don't worry, I hear Canada's only composite m14 stock maker is coming out of "retirement" soon :D
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The burn rate can be pretty high when a guy isn't working. There is that and the fact that without days on there are no days off. Soon you are living in your housecoat unshaven amongst the empty beer cans. I'm hoping for 3 days a week at some point. My Dad is 74 and works 5 days a week 8-5. It worries me they might retire him. Don't think he will do very well.

Welcome back
 
Seafury said:
The burn rate can be pretty high when a guy isn't working. There is that and the fact that without days on there are no days off. Soon you are living in your housecoat unshaven amongst the empty beer cans. I'm hoping for 3 days a week at some point. My Dad is 74 and works 5 days a week 8-5. It worries me they might retire him. Don't think he will do very well.

Welcome back
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the problem for me is that work cuts into hunting and fishing time :D :D
but seriously, my "retirement" pertains to rifle building for profit..... not doing that anymore.
but...... my other ventures have been full steam ahead, I am just trying not to talk about it much online and at same time respecting this sites advertising/soliciting rules.
news about what I'm up to will get out soon enough :D
 
Whoever told the stock maker there are no restrictions is confused. As mentioned, our side doesn't care provided all duties and taxes are paid. However, all M-14 parts are restricted for export by the U.S. government. Regardless of the value.
Then you get into the U.S. licencing. Manufacture is required to have an exporter's licence from the U.S. Dept. of Commerce and ITAR related stuff requires a State Dept. export permit. The former is expensive($1800US per annum last I saw) and most U.S. manufacturers won't bother with it as they can sell everything they make at home.
You got lucky. Buying a stock and bringing it back yourself violates U.S. law. The U.S. Border types are very serious about their job and have been known to do random searches of outgoing Canadian vehicles. Prize is denial of future entry to their country. Worse case is jail time.
 
Some US based vendors will sell M14/M1A parts, stocks, etc. to Canada, and some will not. No consistency. It may be a lack of export license by some US vendors, but also ignorance and lack of enthusiasm for dealing with foreigners in general. There is no lack of business in the US, and demand for M14/M1A parts etc. in the US is very high.
 
The confusion starts with exactly what rifle the stock/parts are for. If the part or stock is exclusively for the M14 rifle or designed for the M14 rifle, it is restricted from export from the US under ITAR. If however, the part is for the Springfield Armory Inc. M1A rifle, it is not covered under ITAR. When ordering parts from the US it is vital that the part you order is for your M1A rifle - especially since the likelihood of you owning an M14 that you can shoot in Canada is zero.
 
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