origin of "mauser" military cartridges?

The Prussian Commission came up with the requirement for the 7.9x57, but Paul Mauser seized on the basic casing and developed a whole family of rounds based on the 57mm case length. These include the 6.5x57, 7x57, 6.8x57, 9x57 and, believe it or not, others. The 7 and the 6.8 became military standards.

He also developed an entire family based on a 51-54mm case length, including the 8x51 Mauser, 7.65x53 (Belgian, Turkish, Argentine and so forth), 7x54 (which was used to some extent by the Boers, but existing rounds are headstamped in Spanish), a 6.5x54 also existed, and so forth.

Nationalism was a big thing in the 19th Century and it was a big thing to have your own rifle. Problem was that many countries couldn't build their own rifles, so they had rifles built for them, often in their own "national" calibres. Thus we get a German company building Portuguese rifles, and the ammunition for them, and refusing the sell the Portuguese any more ammo just because they had declared war on Germany. No sense of ha-ha, those guys!
But if a country couldn't even field a design for their own rifle, they could come up with specs for their own ammunition. This gives rise to different specs by every country that adopted, for example, the Mauser 7.65x53 cartridge.
The smartest ones listened to Paul Mauser, who DID have a pretty good idea what he was talking about....... and adopted his 7.65mm, his 7mm and his 6.8mm, which is one of the least-known (and most interesting) military cartridges.
 
Interesting. Thx.
Do you happen to have a link to any more info on that 6.5x57 ?
I've been looking for long time for info on that.


Edit: Who got the 6.8 as "military standard"?
 
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6.8 was used to a very limited extent by China pre 1914. Many rifles in this calibre were still in Germany in 1914 and were converted to 7.9. 6.8 arms and ammo are very scarce.
 
Yeah, the 6.8x57 was really some cartridge....... wish I had one...... and a rifle. Basically, it was a .270 on a 57mm case-length, bullet diameter .277". China got the rifles and the ammo, but they seem to have ended up bored out to 8x57 to conform with everything else.

BTW, Boer rounds of 7x54 that I have seen are stamped FyA DM K 99, which would indicate mfg by Deutsche Metallpatronenfabriken at Karlsruhe in 1899. Awfully scarce. Mauser chambered the few 7x54 rifles sold to handle the 7x57 casing, as the only difference was the length of the neck. Cartridge collectors should watch for fakes, as this cartridge is rare and expensive if original, and SO easy to fake.

But the 54mm case-length was a good idea, especially if you have the powder technology to take advantage of it.

Just for fun, anybody ever compare the obsolete, wimpy 7.65x53 with the modern and powerful 7.62x51 NATO? Makes you wonder what all the fuss and bother was about!
 
There were never any arms chambered for 7x54. The Boers were shipped 7x54 ammo which had been made by necking down 7.65 cases by a dealer in lieu of proper 7x57. It gave the Boers no end of trouble with cracked bullet jackets. It also exists with an FN hs. Bester covers this ctg well in his books on Boer rifles.
 
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