The "switch" is a white plastic part attached to the bolt. I think its function is to make the brass eject to the front. It is not a safety switch. It provides critical function. Some forum site suggests that the switch is not easily broken when shooting, but only when disassembling /assembling, since it uses a hard spring to lock it in place.
Other TAR-21 vs FS2000 impressions...
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The "switch" is a white plastic part attached to the bolt. I think its function is to make the brass eject to the front. It is not a safety switch. It provides critical function. Some forum site suggests that the switch is not easily broken when shooting, but only when disassembling /assembling, since it uses a hard spring to lock it in place.
I don't own both (yet
) but I do have the FS2000. I don't understand what people have against the mag release on the FS2000. No, it doesn't drop free, but if you wrap your left hand loosely around the mag, slide your hand up til you push the mag release with the edge of your top finger, and pull the mag out. It takes way less time to do than describe, and you have mag retention, very similar to doing a mag retention reload with an AR except you are doing all the work with one hand. I love it to be honest! Just my opinion of course!
) but I do have the FS2000. I don't understand what people have against the mag release on the FS2000. No, it doesn't drop free, but if you wrap your left hand loosely around the mag, slide your hand up til you push the mag release with the edge of your top finger, and pull the mag out. It takes way less time to do than describe, and you have mag retention, very similar to doing a mag retention reload with an AR except you are doing all the work with one hand. I love it to be honest! Just my opinion of course!
You can do that with the tavor as well but also have the option of dumping the mag while grabbing a newvone . Much like the AR.
I haven't had any problems with accidental mag dumps. You have to open your hand to hit the release which is very hard to do accidentally. Unless I guess if you have massive hands or an abnormally long thumb.
I haven't had any problems with accidental mag dumps. You have to open your hand to hit the release which is very hard to do accidentally. Unless I guess if you have massive hands or an abnormally long thumb.
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Epoxy, Have you shot it with winter kit on or thick gloves yet? How about fire and movement? I'm not saying it is going to happen, just that there is a better probability. Even holding the rifle to the shoulder with a natural aim, my wrist is within a 1/4" of the mag release. I'm not a big guy either (5'-11", 200lbs).
So everyone knows, the gasket skirting that seals the mag housing on the FN can be removed, and mags will then drop free. If anyone is planning on competing with one of these in a sport where split seconds are a factor (IPSC, three gun, IDPA, etc., the AR is likely the best bet anyhow (imho).
Proflui,
I'm a lefty too and have just converted mine over. I've detail stripped them both and the FN was a breeze in comparison.
How did you manage to break the switch? It is a robust piece, and as stated it is only meant to direct spent casings into the extraction tube.
Triggers:
I've just compared the two triggers I have and the FN broke at 9lbs 5 oz. with the Tavor coming out at 11lbs 10oz. - pretty much a marginal difference if you ask me. The FN does have a 'hump' though that gives the impression of a two stage trigger, where it loads up to around 8lbs and the break at 9.5 feels quite 'crisp' in comparison to the Tavor. The Tavor loads up much like a Glock and has some 'sponge' to it.
Now, I must say I enjoy the simplicity of Glocks and the triggers work for me, so I have no preference there. Also, the FN has around a 1000 through it, with some moly on the trigger and a bit of work in as well.
So everyone knows, the gasket skirting that seals the mag housing on the FN can be removed, and mags will then drop free. If anyone is planning on competing with one of these in a sport where split seconds are a factor (IPSC, three gun, IDPA, etc., the AR is likely the best bet anyhow (imho).
Proflui,
I'm a lefty too and have just converted mine over. I've detail stripped them both and the FN was a breeze in comparison.
How did you manage to break the switch? It is a robust piece, and as stated it is only meant to direct spent casings into the extraction tube.
Triggers:
I've just compared the two triggers I have and the FN broke at 9lbs 5 oz. with the Tavor coming out at 11lbs 10oz. - pretty much a marginal difference if you ask me. The FN does have a 'hump' though that gives the impression of a two stage trigger, where it loads up to around 8lbs and the break at 9.5 feels quite 'crisp' in comparison to the Tavor. The Tavor loads up much like a Glock and has some 'sponge' to it.
Now, I must say I enjoy the simplicity of Glocks and the triggers work for me, so I have no preference there. Also, the FN has around a 1000 through it, with some moly on the trigger and a bit of work in as well.
Not in Winter kit. I didn't have the Tavor when I lived in real winter conditions. I have shot it while moving. In order to hit the release you have to move your thumb back away from the pistol grip. This isn't a natural movement unless you were about to change mags. I have to open my hand a bit and extend my thumb back. I've had zero accidental releases. My wrist hasn't hit it. The mag release is right in the middle and is protected. I guess you could hit it, but so far that hasn't happened to me.
That being said I'm shorter than you are. So it may be a more likely possibility for you.
I agree with you about the Tavor trigger. It feels like a Glock trigger. Even more so if you remove one of the springs.
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This would be my main concern, availability of replacement parts. Who is the importer of FN parts for Canada?
To be fair, who import parts for the Tavor? What happens if they can't get anymore parts to Canada?
I had a broken part on my original Tavor. (broken by me by not reading the armourers manual when changing the rail). CanAm replaced the broken part in roughly a month with no cost to me even though it was my fault I broke the part.
The switch costs $35 dollar for me. And I am still waiting for it. I am told that the waiting time is about 2 weeks. Questar imports it.
I broke it when I was trying to reassemble the gun. I tried it for an hour but still struggling about how to put it in the correct position when closing the spring. At last I positioned it wrong (but I did not know) and when I finally closed the gun it got squeeze and break. I did read the manual though.
I broke it when I was trying to reassemble the gun. I tried it for an hour but still struggling about how to put it in the correct position when closing the spring. At last I positioned it wrong (but I did not know) and when I finally closed the gun it got squeeze and break. I did read the manual though.
