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Falconflyer said:
But don’t you have to remove the dud round from your gun by hand to put it in the dud container? The OP’s dud round went off in his hand when he unloaded it from his gun.
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Valid. I seem to remember my PAL course years ago talking about duds and keeping the firearm pointed down range for a minute or more before opening the action
 
Keeping the business end pointed that way for two minutes is a good start and a reasonable precaution.

I'm guessing the PAL course does not try to answer the question what happens if the round goes off after the two minute wait? which, I think, is not unreasonable.


DiMP said:
Valid. I seem to remember my PAL course years ago talking about duds and keeping the firearm pointed down range for a minute or more before opening the action
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I'm ex-artillery, and have experienced 155mm howitzer hangfires, and cook-offs (different Company in my Battalion).
Enough to scare the crap of out you.
 
Back in 2004 I was sheep hunting with my Dad and brother and we fond a band of abut 12 rams. My dad had "first shot" because he was "old" and I won the toss for second shot. When w finally got I. range of the band (after 2 days of stalking), Dad shot his ram and, of course the band lit out at full run. I ran after them for a couple hundred yards until they went into a small ravine out of sight and when they started pop up on the other side (maybe 100 yards distant) I watched through the scope (prone) waiting for the one I had picked out previous. When "my: ram came out of the ravine it turned broadside and stopped. I put the cross hairs behind the shoulder and squeezed. CLICK!. WTF. I did not know if I had forgot to load the thing or what happened but did NOT want to open the action in case of a hang fire. I was hooting a Ruler No1 and was laying on my ammo pouch. I moved the breech away from me and open the action and out popped a cartridge, I rolled over to retrieve a fresh one and reloaded. By this time the rams were all on the run again. In the end, I did get the ram I wanted just had to shoot a bit further and my brother got his after chasing them for over a mile. Anyways, the "dud" DID have powder in it, the primer just failed to fire. That was the ONLY time in my life that I had a centre fire cartridge fail to go off (and of course at the most inopportune time) but I was quite nervous opening that action even though I had the breech pointing past me not AT me.
 
I have lost count of the shotgun dud rounds I have had or observed over the years. I have seen wait times from next to zero to durations that I thought at the time were unreasonable. But no hang fires. And I hope my streak continues. I am not sure what I will do the next time I experience a click and no discharge. My luck I will wait too long only to open the gun and see it wasn’t loaded or the wrong barrel was selected. Just another opportunity for my shooting Buddies to laugh at me.
 
Westward1 said:
I have lost count of the shotgun dud rounds I have had or observed over the years. I have seen wait times from next to zero to durations that I thought at the time were unreasonable. But no hang fires. And I hope my streak continues. I am not sure what I will do the next time I experience a click and no discharge. My luck I will wait too long only to open the gun and see it wasn’t loaded or the wrong barrel was selected. Just another opportunity for my shooting Buddies to laugh at me.
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You must shoot with some of the same guys that I do! Lol
 
Westward1 said:
I have lost count of the shotgun dud rounds I have had or observed over the years. I have seen wait times from next to zero to durations that I thought at the time were unreasonable. But no hang fires. And I hope my streak continues. I am not sure what I will do the next time I experience a click and no discharge. My luck I will wait too long only to open the gun and see it wasn’t loaded or the wrong barrel was selected. Just another opportunity for my shooting Buddies to laugh at me.
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I have seen plenty of duds, and many more cases where the primer ignited, and the shot barely made it out the barrel, and it's usually the same few people, that have the vast majority of the issues.
 
I assume you are referring to shooters who reload. Very few of the ones that related to primers were reloads. Factory, from pretty much every manufacturer. As far as reloaders and powder issues, I see them all the time. I always smile when I watch the shot charge land at the center stake.
 
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Westward1 said:
I assume you are referring to shooters who reload. Very few of the ones that related to primers were reloads. Factory, from pretty much every manufacturer. As far as powder issues, I see them all the time. I always smile when I watch the shot charge land at the center stake.
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We are a small club, less than 1000 shots fired on the average day, but we only see a few factory duds per year. Issues with reloads are a lot more common.
 
A friend and I made the drive to Maine yesterday for an NSCA shoot at Hermon Skeet Club. 100 bird main event and a 50 bird side event.

On our squad of 5 I had 2 FTF (Top Gun), Alan had 2 FTF and 2 that sounded off but cleared the barrel and left a lot of unburned powder in his barrels (Bornaghi Gold), and Robin had one FTF (Rio).

Definitely a strange day.
 
Wade Kirk said:
A friend and I made the drive to Maine yesterday for an NSCA shoot at Hermon Skeet Club. 100 bird main event and a 50 bird side event.

On our squad of 5 I had 2 FTF (Top Gun), Alan had 2 FTF and 2 that sounded off but cleared the barrel and left a lot of unburned powder in his barrels (Bornaghi Gold), and Robin had one FTF (Rio).

Definitely a strange day.
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That's probably the 'strangest day' I've heard of, crazy odds. Either buy a whack of lottery tickets on the way home, or none, not sure which would have been correct.
 
Wade Kirk said:
A friend and I made the drive to Maine yesterday for an NSCA shoot at Hermon Skeet Club. 100 bird main event and a 50 bird side event.

On our squad of 5 I had 2 FTF (Top Gun), Alan had 2 FTF and 2 that sounded off but cleared the barrel and left a lot of unburned powder in his barrels (Bornaghi Gold), and Robin had one FTF (Rio).

Definitely a strange day.
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We likely don't see that many failures of factory shotshells in a year.
 
I shoot about 4000 Challengers a year and have maybe 3-4 duds.

We sell hundreds of flats a year and average 1-2 duds per week turned in to us.
 
bdft said:
That's weird. I shoot 5000+ Challengers a year and I can't remember the last time I had a dud. No pierced primers either. Different lots going east or west I guess.
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The pierced primer issue seems to have been greatly reduced lately, instead of 4-5 per box, I am seeing 1 for every few boxes in some guns, and none in orher guns.
 
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