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I don't know much about over under shotguns, but I'd like to have one for duck hunting. Is it possible to get one with about 1000$ that's good/reliable. I don't really care about aesthetics. If yes what brand do you suggest?

I seriously don't get why over unders are SO costly?
 
m_falafel said:
I don't know much about over under shotguns, but I'd like to have one for duck hunting. Is it possible to get one with about 1000$ that's good/reliable. I don't really care about aesthetics. If yes what brand do you suggest?

I seriously don't get why over unders are SO costly?
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As in everything, good/reliable and cheap are most often mutually exclusive. For that price, you should look for a good quality (Beretta or Browning) used one. It will perform better and last you longer than a new one in that price range.

Alsop, IMHO, an O/U or any other break action is not a good choice for hunting in a duck blind, as it is awkward to break the gun and point it down to insert the shells in such a cramped space. A pump or semi auto would serve you better.
 
The cost is related to the amount a extra labour involved in production of OU as comparison to a stamped part Remington 870.

I agree with the previous post, an OU is not the best in a cramped duck blind when you have to drop the barrel's to load it. I have spent hundreds of hrs in a duck blind and your far better off with a pump or auto loader.

If you insist look for a good used one by Browning, Winchester 101, Ruger red label, Berreta etc. If it has screw in chokes great. If it has fixed ckokes anything that is choked full will have to be honed out to Modified to handle the steel shot.

Depending on age in what you find used you may be best to get a good gunsmith to give you an opinion on whether the barrels can handle the steel shot and the cost involved in honing the chokes, before you buy it. Honing a choke is usually not expensive.
 
Browning and winchester guns use invector plus. They are great chokes. Also, I might suggest checking out the browning citori lightning on the same site for 1299.
 
rembolt said:
Yes the Winchester 101 is a quality gun. but befor you spend that kind of money I suggest you go to a good gun shop and shoulder a few different models of O/U .to see which gun and model fits you the best.
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Went to the store yesterday, I'm torn between these two:

Browning citori white satin hunter:
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And

Winchester 101 field deluxe:
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I've handled them both, and I can't tell which one I like better. They are exactly the same price.
 
I use my Browning Citori to hunt waterfowl and small game. It works well.
 
Both are very nice gun and will serve you well.the browning has 3 1/2 " chambers compared to 3" in the winchester .although 3 1/2 s in an O/U would probly be punishing .if both guns fit you well pick the one you like best .
 
rembolt said:
Both are very nice gun and will serve you well.the browning has 3 1/2 " chambers compared to 3" in the winchester .although 3 1/2 s in an O/U would probly be punishing .if both guns fit you well pick the one you like best .
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Lol, the problem is that I like thrm both best hahaha. If money wasn't a problem I'd buy them both.
 
You might want to consider the trigger systems. Brownings usually have inertia systems and Winchester a mechanical system.

The difference being with a mechanical set up you pull the trigger twice it goes click or bang twice, very simple.
With an inertia system the recoil of the first round going off sets up trigger system up to fire the second round. You can only dry fire the Browning on the barrel of choice once unless you bump or jar the butt stock to simulate recoil.

As long as the Browning is held firm to the shoulder the inertia system works well as this ensures enough inertia force is created to set the second barrel up to be fired.
Ask the dealer where your looking what systems the repective guns have. The Win 101's were always mechanical but since they have changed manufacturer that could also have changed.

Iam prejudice towards the mechanical system because I shot alot of clay targets and it is the preferred system for 100% reliability with the lighter loads used in target shooting.

If your only going to duck hunt the inertia system shouldn't be a concern as the heavier recoil of field loads will be consistant is generating the necessary forces to give reliable firing.
 
mrgoat said:
You might want to consider the trigger systems. Brownings usually have inertia systems and Winchester a mechanical system.

The difference being with a mechanical set up you pull the trigger twice it goes click or bang twice, very simple.
With an inertia system the recoil of the first round going off sets up trigger system up to fire the second round. You can only dry fire the Browning on the barrel of choice once unless you bump or jar the butt stock to simulate recoil.

As long as the Browning is held firm to the shoulder the inertia system works well as this ensures enough inertia force is created to set the second barrel up to be fired.
Ask the dealer where your looking what systems the repective guns have. The Win 101's were always mechanical but since they have changed manufacturer that could also have changed.

Iam prejudice towards the mechanical system because I shot alot of clay targets and it is the preferred system for 100% reliability with the lighter loads used in target shooting.

If your only going to duck hunt the inertia system shouldn't be a concern as the heavier recoil of field loads will be consistant is generating the necessary forces to give reliable firing.
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That's the kind of answer I was looking for. I didn't know this trigger difference, with what you just told me, I think I'm leaning toward the Winchester too.
 
m_falafel said:
That's the kind of answer I was looking for. I didn't know this trigger difference, with what you just told me, I think I'm leaning toward the Winchester too.
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OTOH, I have owned three Citoris, all of which have inertia triggers. I have put thousands of rounds through them and I have never had a failure to fire.
 
pacobillie

There is no doubt you have put thousands of trouble free rounds through your Citori's and you will probably pass on many more.
However if your an avid, serious clay target shooter one of these day's when you least expect it...and usually during a registered shoot when your going straight...(nothing but silence will occur) on your second shot. The next memorable sound your going to hear is the Ref calling "lost".

You don't have to guess twice how myself and many dozens of other shooters know this.
I have been hanging around trap, skeet, and sporting clay fields since 1968. Experience is a master teacher.

This is why not all but most top end competion OU's have mechanical triggers. Including some of the Brownings.
 
Wow love the look of the W hunter. What is the price?
m_falafel said:
Went to the store yesterday, I'm torn between these two:

Browning citori white satin hunter:
Citori-White-Satin-Hunter-MID-013440-l.jpg


And

Winchester 101 field deluxe:
101-Deluxe-Field.jpg


I've handled them both, and I can't tell which one I like better. They are exactly the same price.
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You dont have to bump the stock on a Citori to set the second hammer,just click the saftey on and off. Ive never had a F2F with my Citori either
 
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