Over Unders...

isn't there a used 3200 on the exchange right now? I have seen lots of those on the trap field. People keep suggesting pumps because you are on a budget. As mentioned above trap guns are built specially and built to last. 200 000 rounds is not unusual for a trap gun I do not believe any bargain basement overunder will stand up to that kind of abuse. Why do you think there are so many kreigoffs and Perazzis on the trap field. Good advice is to keep looking and saving and buy a used gun off of one of the guys who shoots trap at your club. It has been my experience that trap shooters trade guns like women trade gossip
 
Must be an O/U

Why do people keep suggesting an 870 or semi after I've said it MUST be an O/U...?

Because maybe they are long time trap shooters who have been there, done that, and got the T-shirt for it.

In your first post, you just said you wanted advice on a trap gun. You also say that the Browning BPS is not good for doubles, the Remington 870 is not good for doubles, and a semi is not good for doubles. Ever hear of Rudy Etchen? He used a Model 12 Winchester. Ever been to the Grand in Vandalia, Ohio, and see what is being used there?

Back in the 60s and 70s, I shot the 870 on doubles, and it did just fine. In fact, I preferred the pump gun to a semi because you could cycle it faster. The recoil actually helps you pull the forearm back, and when you swing to pick up the second bird your arm slides forward almost naturally, thus loading the second round. Now, I don't mean that I fired a few thousands of rounds, more like a few TEN thousands of rounds of 12 guage.

You say you are on a budget, and also say that "there is a trap club YOU WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN." You also want a good over/under trap gun for under $500. I'm not going to say "It ain't going to happen", because if it does, you had better rush out an buy a 6-49 ticket----you'll have to be lucky. As a newcomer to Trap Shooting, you should keep an open mind, and listen to some of the more experienced shooters.

Trap guns are more expensive because they have more care taken with them at the factory. Ordinary mass produced guns are sent out after being made, but usually Trap and Skeet guns get more attention. A trap gun should throw an even pattern, but a field gun of the same make may throw a heavier pattern to one side, top or bottom. Trap guns usually have better wood stocks, and stocks are made to shoot a bit high ( due to the fact you hit trap birds on the rise.)

When the Browning BPS came out, I bought one. It performed similar to the 870, and I found no problem at all shooting doubles with it. I later bought an engraved BPS with a modified and full trap barrels, and it works just fine on doubles, even though I am slowing down a bit due to age.

Now, that being said, you should investigate the used gun racks of local gun shops. Ask around the Gun Club to see if anyone has one for sale. However, be warned that Trap shooters are very serious about their sport, and very competitive. If they have one for sale, there is a reason for it. Usually because they are doing poorly with it.

I recently bought a Savage 330 over/under field gun for $300 that was in a used gun rack. It was made in 1976, but looked like it came out of a box. It was almost new looking. Funny thing---the Savage did not have a ventilated rib on it, and the guy used it only for Trap. He did all right too. He just got too old and started selling off his guns. The Savage was made by Valmet, in Finland.

Try Trade Ex. Go to the shotgun section. They had some o/u shotguns for sale a while ago. Just go back to the home page, look at the sponsor advertisements above the toolbar line. Click on the Trade Ex link.

Good luck on your quest.
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