Overnight stay w/restricted

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We have signed up for a pistol course and have decided to stay overnight at a hotel near the range where the course will be held (early am start).

Where do we store our firearms? We will be going out for dinner the night before as well to a special restaurant that I proposed at (plus it's the week of our anniversary). In the room or our car? Help!
 
MikeyScuba said:
We have signed up for a pistol course and have decided to stay overnight at a hotel near the range where the course will be held (early am start).

Where do we store our firearms? We will be going out for dinner the night before as well to a special restaurant that I proposed at (plus it's the week of our anniversary). In the room or our car? Help!
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Would the range keep them locked up for you? Or do you just not trust them?
 
X-Treme said:
Would the range keep them locked up for you? Or do you just not trust them?
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Last place I would leave them. If it were me and I was not in the room at the time, they'd be locked in a case in the truck of my car (or behind the seat of the truck) and I would make a point of having a room where parking is in front of my room and in plain view of the front of the hotel.
 
As for the range not sure how that would work as the course is run by an outside agency. There are 3 of us so the room safe won't be big enough. Going to leave them in the car for dinner and in the room overnight.
 
Store them in your room. You can not store them in your car if they are restricted. I recently attended a course in another province. Stayed in a hotel, stored my pistol there and when I went to dinner I took the barrel in my pocket. More a piece of mind that if it did get stolen, it would be useless for a while.
 
shawn said:
Based on what exactly?

Shawn
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I recall that there was a conviction involving firearms left overnight in a car, rather than being brought into the home, after the owner returned from using them.

If I were in the OP's situation, the double locked guns would be with me in the room, and locked in my vehicle if I were to go for a meal. The guns aren't being stored in the car, they are in transit.
 
shawn said:
Based on what exactly?

Shawn
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A guy had some restricteds locked in one of those lockboxes in the back of a pickup, inside a locked case inside the locked lockbox and they got stolen and he got charged.

Can't leave restricteds in a car overnight, that becomes "storage" instead of "transport" so storage rules.
 
tiriaq said:
I recall that there was a conviction involving firearms left overnight in a car, rather than being brought into the home, after the owner returned from using them.

If I were in the OP's situation, the double locked guns would be with me in the room, and locked in my vehicle if I were to go for a meal. The guns aren't being stored in the car, they are in transit.
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Yes and all those cases were people leaving non restricted in their vehicles in accordance with transport regs and not storage regs. And buying into the the, always in a car its it transport BS

canmic said:
A guy had some restricteds locked in one of those lockboxes in the back of a pickup, inside a locked case inside the locked lockbox and they got stolen and he got charged.

Can't leave restricteds in a car overnight, that becomes "storage" instead of "transport" so storage rules.
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Care to post up the case

As there is nothing in "storage" regs that say you cant store in a car. The rules for storage and transport for restricted are the same, there is no difference.

Shawn
 
It would be interesting to see this case if you could post. Many calls with CFO and always told in room or in trunk of vehicle locked as normally would transporting to range
 
If I am participating in events away from home, overnight or longer, the firearms are being transported to a range for the permitted purpose.
That is the circumstance to which your CFO was referring.

Just keep them secure.
 
Recently travelled from Nova Scotia to QC, stayed in hotels and stored in the hotel room. Locked in a locked case with the "do not disturb sign".

Whenever we went for dinner, shoved the cased under on of the beds (4 ar/2 pistols dont fit in an hotel safe)
 
I recently called the RCMP's firearms help line with this exact question, and the exact same scenario. I was out of town and had a course, was staying at a hotel, etc.

I was told to store them as usual when in transit, (double locked, in trunk, etc) and to store them in the hotel overnight. If I was to go anywhere else, I was advised to leave them in the room, locked in the safe if possible.
 
jory said:
I recently called the RCMP's firearms help line with this exact question, and the exact same scenario. I was out of town and had a course, was staying at a hotel, etc.

I was told to store them as usual when in transit, (double locked, in trunk, etc) and to store them in the hotel overnight. If I was to go anywhere else, I was advised to leave them in the room, locked in the safe if possible.
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Had the same advice when I first got my RPAL and went to a Black Badge Course.
 
MCP said:
Store them in your room. You can not store them in your car if they are restricted. I recently attended a course in another province. Stayed in a hotel, stored my pistol there and when I went to dinner I took the barrel in my pocket. More a piece of mind that if it did get stolen, it would be useless for a while.
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Your advice could land someone in trouble.
An overnight stay puts the guns in transport. Follow the transport regs.
*unless your att covers the hotel, which it doesn't.
**call your cfo for a temp att covering the room, if that's where you'd prefer to store.
 
9x19p said:
Your advice could land someone in trouble.
An overnight stay puts the guns in transport. Follow the transport regs.
*unless your att covers the hotel, which it doesn't.
**call your cfo for a temp att covering the room, if that's where you'd prefer to store.
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Do you have any foundation for this opinion?
 
greywolf67nt said:
When I travel they are in a locked case in the room, in a drawer or suitcase and the Do Not Disturb sign on the door.
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That is what I do. Locked as per transport regs, case out of sight, Do Not Disturb sign on the door and leave the TV on but not too loud. The wife thinks leaving the TV on is a bit much but it doesn't hurt.

They are never left in the vehicle overnight.
 
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