P-14/p-17 **pic's up **

Regarding WWI combat use of the P14, the answer is yes, but not in a massive way. I have read that some WWI British sharpshooters preferred the P14 over the Lee Enfield. Some Canadians may have carried P14s. I would love to learn more details about this.

my grandfather was a demolitions instructor and a marksman, he was armed with a p14 like many other canucks who where marksman. this was in ww2
 
I've got a P14 and a P17, both have original barrels, but are otherwise sporterized. I really like them - the P17 may be my most accurate rifle, with it's original 1918 barrel it shoots no-BS 5/8" groups with a cheap scope and 170gr RN handloads. I'm sure envious of you fellows down south who can scoop them up relatively easy at $100 or so. I'm limited to the EE + shipping! :p
 
I just picked up a P14 from a member here and it is a joy to shoot. Less felt recoil I think than my issue Lee. But I was wondering if the P14 used a different stripper than the Lee? My strippers work 100 percent of the time in the Lee but only about 40 percent in the P14. As well when it did strip into the magazine it could be a ##### to get it to cycle the first round.

Cheers
JeffA
 
I own three P-14's, one from each make. The Winchester has the volley sights intact and the bore is in good shape. All of my rifles really like Hornady .312's of the 150grn spire point variety. They feed and shoot very well, even in my Eddystone with it's pristine .315's bore. MOA at 100m... I can't complain for a 90+ year old rifle.

The P-14s are well built and accurate, all I have to do is add a Model 1917 to my collection and work up some loads to make the picture complete.
 
So here are some pics of my Winchester P-17 this one I am putting the target sight on. A really nice rig all numbers matching even the stock the bluing is around %80-90 So here are the pics I will have my sight next week sometime.
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There is A ton of flaming bombs on it. On the barrel under the first hand guard, on the safety latch, on the left side of the receiver, the bolt and also on the trigger. I dont think it was A British issue or if it was I guess it was American and British issue. It is also maked US on the reciver as seen in the pics
 
Funny how A rifle that costs like A quarter of the price can do that.

One word: History.

No modern hunting or 'tactical' rifle can ever give the feel or the nostalgia of a piece of 90+ year old walnut and steel that has survived all these years and still shoots as well as the day it was made.
 
OK, I've read the whole thread now and I can't stand it any more!!! There is no such rifle as the "P-17". A P-14, or pattern 14 rifle is in .303 british, a redesigned prewar P-13, which was designed to take a rimless cartridge. When the war broke out, the brits redesigned the rifle P-13 to take the rimmed .303 and called it the P-14. When the contract ran out with the brits, or perhaps even before that happened, the U.S. redesigned the rifle again to take the Rimless .30-06 and called it the Model of 1917, or "M-17". P = british or pattern, M = U.S. or Model. OK I feel better now.

Scott
 
OK, I've read the whole thread now and I can't stand it any more!!! There is no such rifle as the "P-17". A P-14, or pattern 14 rifle is in .303 british, a redesigned prewar P-13, which was designed to take a rimless cartridge. When the war broke out, the brits redesigned the rifle P-13 to take the rimmed .303 and called it the P-14. When the contract ran out with the brits, or perhaps even before that happened, the U.S. redesigned the rifle again to take the Rimless .30-06 and called it the Model of 1917, or "M-17". P = british or pattern, M = U.S. or Model. OK I feel better now.

Scott

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U.S. Model of 1917.
My Winchester shoots very well and I have added a magazine platform depressor to speed up reloading especially when using the shooting sling.
It is built like a tank and the fine front sight is eay to line up on target.

BB
 
Can we hear the story too?


Here is a PM that I sent to AndyGumpers a few days ago/

A Winchester P17
Hello Andy,

Years ago, I acquired a bubbaed .30-06, cut down stock and the rest as issued. Over a period of two years, without power tools or and special skills, I worked on that rifle. I ended up with a fine sporter, the most accurate .30-06 I ever owned, if not the most accurate rifle.

Here is what I did, not necessarily in the order listed:

1.Cut off about 1.25" of barrell and crowned it with valve compound and a round ball mounted in a drill.
2.Hack sawed off the two ugly rear lugs protecting the rear sight.
3.Filed the rear of the receiver to the same contour as the 1920-30s Rem M30 I believe, Rem first full size bolt action after WW1
4.Filled in the egg shaped hole in the action under the rear sight.
5.Removed all finish, polished it up and hot blued it with my own tank and bluing salts (I'm an old pharmacist).
6.Had a friend heat and flatten out the bent trigger guard so that I could thin down the haeavy stock.
7.Bought a Lyman slide-on front sight baseand installed a good fron sight.
8.Installed a Lyman #57 rear peap sight.
9.Cut down the magazine box.
10.Bought and fitted a Bishop standard grade walnut stock and removed as much unnecessary barrel channel wood as possible.
11. Installed quick detachable sling swivels.
12. Hand honed the bolt and action.
13. Finished off the stock over several months with a mix of turps, boiled Linseed oil and spar varnish.
14. Oh, yes, I installed a piece of steel for the recoil lug to contact, rather tnan wood.

At this point the rifle was shooting 1" 5 shot 100 yds groups from a bench with almost any load that I fed it.

When I could afford to. I put a 4x Bushnell scope on it.

With it, I took many mule deer, and two moose.

It was not a light rifle, but one that I was really happy with. When I became a bit more affluent, I bought other rifles and sold my 17:( This was only one of the many stupid deals I made over the years.
 
Thanks...maybe your 17 is still out there somewhere. Do you remember the serial number?

PS: I like this: "When an elderly person dies, a library burns down." And the sad part is that often a lot of the books have never been read by anyone else.
 
My old Model 17 Winch

Thanks...maybe your 17 is still out there somewhere. Do you remember the serial number?

PS: I like this: "When an elderly person dies, a library burns down." And the sad part is that often a lot of the books have never been read by anyone else.

I would trade any of my modern rifles, maybe two, if I could find this rifle here in the Ottawa Valley where I virtually gave it away with a hard case that I had made for it.:(

As the saying goes "too late smart, too soon dumb." :redface:
 
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