P-14 Price / Value Check

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Father in law has a P-14. No sights, drilled and tapped, etc., nice stock with raised cheek piece. Good condition, bore looks a little rough.

Question #1 - Price?

Question # 2 - I know very little of mil-surp guns...what is the value in this gun, and I don't mean money? I have been told about Mauser actions? Are these good guns? If so what makes them desireable?

Thanks for your help.
 
Well - They are/were well-made rifles. Like most sported milsurps, its now worth less than the original rifle, Value is now dependent upon condition and features - drilled and tapped is nice,getting the correct bases can be difficult.
Most folks now consider a rifle like this "dated" for hunting purposes - heavy, blind mag, etc. With a tired bore, it becomes even more dated - Gibbs is right with his assessment.
 
You can still get un-bubba'd P14's for $200 in VG condition. Unless it's a BSA or Parker Hale or some other professional bubba job, in reality you would be lucky to get $125 for it on the board.
 
The bore being rough is the kicker, otherwise IMO $175-250.

If you part it out, the stock (if nice) can fetch $75-100, and the action $125-150 (it already has the usual gunsmithing done which is a bonus).
 
For about $450 - $500, you can have it rebarreled to either a magnum or another rimmed round. or for about the same price as above, you can buy a very decent factory sporter with a not bad scope in almost any cartridge configuration available commercially.
Personally it sounds like a $150 rifle to me. bearhunter
 
PE GUY, I as well have one of these rifles and it is NOT a mauser clone action!! It is a actual mauser action. This rifle was a convergence of Enfield and Mauser for a .303 If you google search the lee enfield P-14 you will find out alot more about your rifle. At the onset of WW1 enfield and Mauser obviously split. About 300,000 of these rifles were made and alot were shipped here to North America. I got mine from my father-inlaw as well. Does yours have the original stock? If I can refind the site I will post it here for you.
 
Hitzy said:
You can still get un-bubba'd P14's for $200 in VG condition.
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I'd like to know where. :D

Most unmolested P-14's I see go for around $300 to $400 in VG condition, bonus if it's all matching with volley sights. The odd one may dip below that for someone who doesn't know what they are selling, but it's rare, in my experience anyway.
 
Jay T said:
PE GUY, I as well have one of these rifles and it is NOT a mauser clone action!! It is a actual mauser action. This rifle was a convergence of Enfield and Mauser for a .303 If you google search the lee enfield P-14 you will find out alot more about your rifle. At the onset of WW1 enfield and Mauser obviously split. About 300,000 of these rifles were made and alot were shipped here to North America. I got mine from my father-inlaw as well. Does yours have the original stock? If I can refind the site I will post it here for you.
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A lot more then 300,000 where made! Well over a million P14's and about 2.5 million Model 1917's were made between 1916 and 1919!
 
model 17 were not P-14's the P-14 was in production at the onset of WW1 and was scrapped at the onset of WW1 and the 1917 started to be made and yes you are right Gibbs 505 only 300,000 came to North America. Over 1 million were made, but as I said only 300,000 made it to North America. So owning one is fairly rare. That is one in original condition. Mine has a shortened stock. Most were sporterized for hunting and less weight in the field. I love mine and can shoot 6 inch groups through the iron sights at 300 yards. Yes it can shoot better than that, but I am not a great shot. so it shoots better than I can.
 
Jay T said:
model 17 were not P-14's the P-14 was in production at the onset of WW1 and was scrapped at the onset of WW1 and the 1917 started to be made and yes you are right Gibbs 505 only 300,000 came to North America. Over 1 million were made, but as I said only 300,000 made it to North America. So owning one is fairly rare. That is one in original condition. Mine has a shortened stock. Most were sporterized for hunting and less weight in the field. I love mine and can shoot 6 inch groups through the iron sights at 300 yards. Yes it can shoot better than that, but I am not a great shot. so it shoots better than I can.
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What reference are you using about 300,000 came to north america? P14's are not rare by any stretch.....
 
Jay T said:
model 17 were not P-14's the P-14 was in production at the onset of WW1 and was scrapped at the onset of WW1 and the 1917 started to be made and yes you are right Gibbs 505 only 300,000 came to North America. Over 1 million were made, but as I said only 300,000 made it to North America. So owning one is fairly rare. That is one in original condition. Mine has a shortened stock. Most were sporterized for hunting and less weight in the field. I love mine and can shoot 6 inch groups through the iron sights at 300 yards. Yes it can shoot better than that, but I am not a great shot. so it shoots better than I can.
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Jay I think that you have been given some wrong information. Here is a link to wikipeda about the P 14
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_14_Rifle
and the Model 1917
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1917_Enfield_rifle
I also suggest that you pick up Charles Stratton book "British Enfield Rifles. The Pattern 1914 and U.S. Model 1917 Rifles" The ISBN is 1-882391-29-2.
The publishier is North Cape Publications and their web site is
https://www.northcapepubs.com/
 
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Jay T said:
PE GUY, I as well have one of these rifles and it is NOT a mauser clone action!! It is a actual mauser action.
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I don't understand why people assume the P-14 to be a Mauser action when it has so little in common with a Mauser. The only thing it really has in common with a Mauser is the dual bolt lug and the one piece bolt. Though dual front locking lugs were never unique or original to Mausers.

The sights are different, the safety is different, and the gas vent is similar to the Lee Enfield. It isn't a Mauser.
 
Tyler said:
I don't understand why people assume the P-14 to be a Mauser action when it has so little in common with a Mauser. The only thing it really has in common with a Mauser is the dual bolt lug and the one piece bolt. Though dual front locking lugs were never unique or original to Mausers.

The sights are different, the safety is different, and the gas vent is similar to the Lee Enfield. It isn't a Mauser.
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I think it's the extractor that draws the comparison more then anything.
 
Tyler said:
I don't understand why people assume the P-14 to be a Mauser action when it has so little in common with a Mauser. The only thing it really has in common with a Mauser is the dual bolt lug and the one piece bolt. Though dual front locking lugs were never unique or original to Mausers.

The sights are different, the safety is different, and the gas vent is similar to the Lee Enfield. It isn't a Mauser.
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It is a mauser made better!:evil:


{Let the screaming begin!:eek: :D }
 
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