P-14 versus the P-17 Wood

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I have a sporterized P-14 that is suitable to be un-sporterized and turned back to military config.

Checking the internet, I can buy P-17 wood and bands easily but can't find the P-14 equivalent.

Anybody out there know if the front and rear handguard wood from either is the same? Also front and middle bands?

Any help is appreciated.
 
the p14 stock will not fit the magazine box of the model1917 as the 30.06 round is a little bigger but it will work the other away around
 
There is no such thing as a P-17, P-14 were the British pattern "P", and in .303 British, the properly called Model of 1917 "M" was the U.S. designation for the rifle in .30-06.

You will need to do some minor fitting to make the action fit in the stock ether way but I have done it both ways successfully.

Scott
 
The top rear handguard inner wood on the 30-06 US M1917 is cut larger than the 303 P14 to accommodate the noticeably larger and longer barrel width just after the chamber for the 30-06 has a thicker and heaver barrel in this area.

The 30-06 M1917 rear handguard will fit a P14 but not the other way around.
 
@ m392:

Sorry, BUT........

The M-1917 in Canadian Service during the Second World War was known officially as the P-'17 rifle and Manuals were printed with that designation.

In the RCAF it was commonly called the "Eddystone Rifle" due to so many being built there.
 
smellie said:
@ m392:

Sorry, BUT........

The M-1917 in Canadian Service during the Second World War was known officially as the P-'17 rifle and Manuals were printed with that designation.

In the RCAF it was commonly called the "Eddystone Rifle" due to so many being built there.
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Sorry, BUT........
That does not make the P17 designation correct, just means Canada got it wrong.
 
5THBATT said:
Sorry, BUT........
That does not make the P17 designation correct, just means Canada got it wrong.
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I accept your apologies.
BUT...The issuer gets to designate, not the user. ESP almost a hundred years later. I admire the courage it would have taken to explain this to your CO about 100 years ago...I'm sure you'd have received a medal.
 
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin again? This is the kind of nit-picking that turns off new converts to our sport. Flame me if you want my ass is bestous.
 
Loyer said:
I have a sporterized P-14 that is suitable to be un-sporterized and turned back to military config.

Checking the internet, I can buy P-17 wood and bands easily but can't find the P-14 equivalent.

Anybody out there know if the front and rear handguard wood from either is the same? Also front and middle bands?

Any help is appreciated.
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Had some luck finding parts:
-Sarco for the barrel bands;
-Liberty Tree for the 2 wooden handguards
-Marstar for a small ring

Now all I need is the full length P-14 wood stock. This seems impossible to find in North America. USA has a seller but won't ship to Canada. May have to do with a M1917 and do some tweaking. If anyone knows of a source for the P-14 wood stock (bottom only) I would appreciate the heads up. Thanks.
 
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Nitpicking? I beg to differ. Any hobby or sport can only exist if the correct nomenclature is taught to those coming into the hobby. The infamous "Clip" verses "Magazine" comes to mind here. If we do not have the correct name to a thing, then people get confused.

"I need a scope mount for an old Enfield", Ok, so which one? No1's are a completely different rifle then a No 4 and the mags are not interchangeable, nor are very few other parts. As the "Older" crowd, it is our duty to teach the younger people the correct name and such for things otherwise in a few years no one will remember the difference between a P-14 and a M-17. The guy who printed the manual probably thought a clip was the same as a magazine as well! LOL

Scott
 
Loyer said:
Found one. Thanks
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Happy endings are the best endings!

m39a2 said:
Nitpicking? I beg to differ. Any hobby or sport can only exist if the correct nomenclature is taught to those coming into the hobby. The infamous "Clip" verses "Magazine" comes to mind here. If we do not have the correct name to a thing, then people get confused.

"I need a scope mount for an old Enfield", Ok, so which one? No1's are a completely different rifle then a No 4 and the mags are not interchangeable, nor are very few other parts. As the "Older" crowd, it is our duty to teach the younger people the correct name and such for things otherwise in a few years no one will remember the difference between a P-14 and a M-17. The guy who printed the manual probably thought a clip was the same as a magazine as well! LOL

Scott
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Clip vs Magazine is a great example of nomenclature... Many folks jump in to remind individuals the "clip" they are referring to is a "magazine". They should contact the manufacturers too. Parker Hale 1200C is an example, as "C" stands for clip. Same with Remington 10C. Many manufacturers refer to their magazines as clips...they are the issuers in this case, and not the users.


Seeing as how this very site is named canadiangunnutz, the Canadian designation for the rifle was P17.
 
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To many military items in he US military are referred to a M1917, or my Favorite M1, M1A, M1A1.

For example: M1917could be a Rifle, revolver, tank, Machine gun, bayonet, artillery tractor 10 ton, artillery tractor 5 ton, ....

Or

M1 is a garand, carbine, tank, helmet, cross country car, Light Ordnance Tractor, light shop truck, rail tractor, 4-Ton, M1 Scout car, etc.

Yikes...
 
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