P14 Enfield value please!!

[Potashminer]

I am not sure about P14 barrel markings. I do have two Winchester M1917 barrels - dated 6-18 (June 1918), and 2-19 (Feb 1919) with the "W" and the flaming bomb near the front sight - they do not have a serial number near the chamber, but has these marks on the bottom of the barrel about mid length. The VP in an oval is a Winchester proof mark. Have not yet discovered what the other marks mean.

From that George Stratton book, page 22/23, in a discussion of markings on P14 rifles, "On Winchester rifles, the receiver ring and the barrel serial numbers have a "W" prefix ..."

 

[icehunter121]

Just doing a quick read,this barrel has a NP on it below what looks like a hand/arm holding a sickle/sword. One fella said that this was a civilian mark that this rifle was in the UK cicie market. Gotta get to work!! Maybe a rebarrel?

 

[englishman_ca]

NP = Nitro Proof. The symbol of an armoured arm holding a up blade is called a 'seaxe'.

It denotes that the arm was tested at the London Proof House for sale onto the civilian market through the British Gun Trade.

 

[icehunter121]

So all I can come up with is 2 matching numbers,the receiver and bolt. I cannot find a stamp or a W on the barrel at all. Should a fella look for a better one or just grab it? I even went over the barrel with a magnifying glass just in case there was a faint marking. I even thought about taking the front sight off,just in case!!

 

[gordonlbyrne]

Serial on barrel would be easy to see would be in line with the receiver serial dirrectly in front of it with a clear stamped w

 

[icehunter121]

So I ended up giving my buddy $175.00 for this rifle. Now the search for wood and parts starts!

 

[Potashminer]

So all I can come up with is 2 matching numbers,the receiver and bolt. I cannot find a stamp or a W on the barrel at all. Should a fella look for a better one or just grab it? I even went over the barrel with a magnifying glass just in case there was a faint marking. I even thought about taking the front sight off,just in case!!

To be "matching", on a P14 there should be four instances of the serial number - receiver, barrel, bolt handle and on the face of the top cross bar of the rear sight - that would be facing down when the ladder is folded down, or forward, if the ladder is raised. I have not been able to verify whether original wood stocks and hand guards were similarly marked to the receiver in some way. Almost all other parts on the rifle will have the initial of the original marker of that part - R, W or E. At least based on experience with M1917's on hand, the makers did not put their marks in the same place on identical parts - for example, the "E" is found on the exterior left side of the bolt stop, whereas the "R" for the same part will be found on the bottom, against the wood stock. On original American used M1917's, there was only one serial number - on the receiver. Rifles that made it to Britain or elsewhere got that serial number added to the bolt handle by them, not by Americans.