P14 make over, who works on these in Canada?

reomack said:
It is my understanding that ERA barrels were attached and torqued to the actions using a hydraulic device rather than by hand and, as a result many were grossly overtorqued. It was this, rather than defective receivers that would then cause the cracks you sometimes hear of on this and some other boards. If you have the barrel replaced have the smith make a relief cut on the barrel to reduce the torque necessary to remove the original and you should be OK. This assumes that the receiver is not already cracked.
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BINGO, ERA's are no harder than Win and Rem. receivers. Bill Leeper is the B.C. choice for you.
 
If you want something really sweet, contact Ralph Martini in Cranbrook B.C. It won't be cheap, but it will be so sweet.
Ivor
 
gravyboat said:
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Here's one I did up a few years ago.
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Yeah, that's nice! I'm also like the sights you've got on there.
The winter project for the P14 will be as follows
Take it apart and strip the old finish and clean up all the metal parts. Reparkerize the lot or maybe dura coat.
Then I'll get to work on a composite camo laminate stock I'll have to make from scratch.
Other than the hatchet marks all over the front sight area of the barrel (last 3 inches), the rifle is not bad.
Definately shootable as is.
I'll try and report back from time to time on progress.
Sending it out to be made over will only happen if I decided on a caliber change.
Thanx to everyone who's responded, I'll check out some of the names that have been dropped here. I appreciate it ;)
 
What caliber can the P-14 be easily re-chambered to? Or should I say cost effectively rechambered to?

I heard on AOF that there is a Ron Smith in Torrington AB that does re boring of a barrel, and I have a P-14 like the above picture minus the stock. Im thinking I may just order the Boyd's stock but the only reason Im hesitant is that I'd like something other then .303, no offense to the caliber, I just want more.

Oh I also have a timney trigger I picked up for $50 so a boyds stock, timney and maybe a rechamber or re-bore and I think it would be a sweet little gun.
 
Ellwood used to make them up for his .303 Epps Improved and later for his .303 Epps Magnum.

The .303 Epps Improved is a standard .303 case, straightened out, with a sharp shoulder and short neck. It is a howler, can equal a .30-06 or better.

The .303 Epps Magnum is a .308 Norma Mag casing loaded with a .303 bullet; all the conversion requires is a reamer and some work on the feed rails. Ellwood's shop still does this, also supply dies. The cartridge can actually be loaded slightly hotter than a factory .308 Norma..... and that is DAMNED hot.

Hope this helps.
 
Ron Smith does do rebores, but he's getting on. Best check with him to see if he can do it for you. As to what it can be turned into, how much money do you want to spend? Anything from a 303 Improved (Epps, Ackley, et al) to a 505 Gibbs (and even some larger rounds) can be built on these. Or smaller. I saw one that had been cut down and sectioned and chambered for 250-3000 AI, lovely little gun. - dan
 
smellie said:
Ellwood used to make them up for his .303 Epps Improved and later for his .303 Epps Magnum.

The .303 Epps Improved is a standard .303 case, straightened out, with a sharp shoulder and short neck. It is a howler, can equal a .30-06 or better.

The .303 Epps Magnum is a .308 Norma Mag casing loaded with a .303 bullet; all the conversion requires is a reamer and some work on the feed rails. Ellwood's shop still does this, also supply dies. The cartridge can actually be loaded slightly hotter than a factory .308 Norma..... and that is DAMNED hot.

Hope this helps.
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Yup, helps a tonne smellie.
The 303 epps improved would be something I'd seriously consider. I'm gonna call them after the weekend ;)
 
dan belisle said:
Ron Smith does do rebores, but he's getting on. Best check with him to see if he can do it for you. As to what it can be turned into, how much money do you want to spend? Anything from a 303 Improved (Epps, Ackley, et al) to a 505 Gibbs (and even some larger rounds) can be built on these. Or smaller. I saw one that had been cut down and sectioned and chambered for 250-3000 AI, lovely little gun. - dan
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Sorry I should be a little more descriptive, I'd like something conventional (buy it off the shelf from WSS etc.) in a round not lacking for hunting elk in alberta. The 505 sounds cool, but I should keep it fairly conventional, I.e. 338 win mag, or 300 win mag, 375 ruger or maybe H&H, or 9.3x62, actually that would be really sweet, but I'd like to keep things on a reasonable budget for something that can be used or lent out, or perhaps even given to a friend one day.

I'm a lefty, and have a few left handed hunters already, so actually I would be building it for the sake of building and more likely to pass to a family member or close friend.

Edit: I wonder if I got a bolt from a M-17 and slapped it in a P-14 and then had it rebored and chambered to 9.3x62 how much that would run me, maybe Ill give Ron Smith a call on tuesday and see if he has some ideas.
 
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That sounds like a good idea. Depending on the outer diameter of the existing barrel, that will limit what the barrel can be bored out to. As the magazine in the 14 is set up for the rimmed 303, you may have to also source the 17 parts to allow proper feeding. Might be able to massage the existing parts to work, but go slow and try the fit a lot. It's hard to put metal back. - dan
 
Many P17's were converted to 300 Win Mag by rechambering and substituting a bolt from a P14 - I have one. It utilizes the existing barrel and nice aftermarket stocks are available.

Some have rechambered P14's with the same 300 Win Mag reamer and have come up with a "303 Win Mag". Use 300 Win Mag brass with the neck outside reamed by 3-4 thou, and 0.311-0.312" bullets.

http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/product.htm?pid=17456&cat=1223

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Thanks for that info Andy,

Perhaps I should see about trading my P-14 for a M-17 and then get that rechambered to 300 WM.
 
dan belisle said:
Then you'll still have bolt and magazine work to deal with. - dan
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what do you suggest? Do I need a P-14 bolt for the M-17 if I want to rechamber it to 300WM?

Just when I thought I was starting to figure it out. Why cant this be easy? I really do appreciate your knowledge though Dan!
 
So, yer saying I need a 300WM reamer...
Hmmmm....
Converting my P14 to a "303WM" is appealing to me.
Any ballistic data on this ?
And, I'm assuming all I would need is the 300WM pull thru finish reamer, headspace guages, and some reloading gear?
And some feed ramp/magazine work?

I'm VERY interested in doing this custom job myself so any info on what tools ect and mods I'll need to perform will be extremely appreciated ;)
 
A P14 bolt in a M17 will take care of the magnum bolt face required. Then a reamer for a 300 Win Mag (or 300 Wby or 308 Norma Mag). A lathe and some practice. You can make your own correctly sized magazine box from sheet metal, a magnum follower can be purchased from Numrich Arms, the normal follower spring should work. Replace the bolt release leaf spring with a coil (or modify a Mauser release for a much cleaner look. If you really want to go to town, grind the receiver surfaces to match a 700 Rem (after you weld up the hole in the rear bridge of course), and find some Springfield bottom metal. You can also cut the stock bottom metal, straighten it and weld it back up. You can build a nice looking sporter from one if you're willing to put in the effort and learn the skills. - dan
 
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