p226 x-five

Setanta said:
He sells his organs on the black market. That x-five cost him a kidney

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (actually it was a kidney, an Walther P99OD, and an HK USP9SS.. drink too much kidney not worth too much)
 
hr said:
actually its not really a 'cheaper' version exactly, it is cheaper in price as its missing 2 items from the original X5. The walnut Nils grip and the adj trigger.... for some reason the absence of those 2 features account for a $900usd difference..... :confused:

I'm not sure the Nill grips are worth it, I'd prefer the plastic ones for IPSC as the Nill grips scratch easily. However the adjustable trigger is.
 
So I finally got a chance to break in my X-Five on Sunday. With no special expectations, I was seriously contemplating selling this sucker thinking it really wasn't worth the money before I even shot it. But after shooting 250 rounds through her, she is worth every penny and more. I have yet to shoot a pistol as accurate as this one (except for maybe the 210 which I have not had a chance to shoot yet). As accurate as my P220 in 9mm is, the X-Five was far more superior. It has a great weight to it, which makes shooting 9mm like shooting .22LR with a louder bang! The fit and finish truely lives up to the Sig Sauer name. The only complain I have is that the slide release is a little hard to reach for me, but that's hardly the pistols fault.
 
capp325 said:
Those Nill grips alone sell for 150 euros in Germany. That's almost $200 USD. Also, the adjustable trigger on the more expensive X5 is a totally different mechanism. I'm pretty sure (and perhaps someone can correct me if I'm wrong) that X5 Competition's trigger is just a regular P226 trigger without the double action. Supposedly the adjustable X5 trigger is better, not just because it is adjustable but also because it is smoother, crisper, lighter, etc. Whether the difference in trigger feel is worth $500 is up to the customer to decide.

I haven't pulled one apart, but the triggers are excellent. Reset is less than on a Glock, very short. There was at the very least some work put into them as well as non standard parts.
 
cybershooters said:
I can't see the point to the X-Five in 9mm, it was intended for IPSC, so why would you want it in 9mm when .40 makes major? Having said that, my Sport II SL is as accurate as a P210, and the X-Five is undoubtedly in the same league accuracy-wise. But it's a heavy gun for bullseye.

Also, if you're limited to ten rounds, that also favours the .40.
Since this gun is made in germany only, there is virtualy nobody that shoots .40 over there and it is prolly hard to come by, might be the reason it comes in 9mm. If you want bigger caliber just get the the p220 Langdon in 45
 
Brian46 said:
Since this gun is made in germany only, there is virtualy nobody that shoots .40 over there and it is prolly hard to come by, might be the reason it comes in 9mm. If you want bigger caliber just get the the p220 Langdon in 45

I must agree, North America seems to be one of the few places where the .40cartridge is popular.
 
Brian46 said:
Since this gun is made in germany only, there is virtualy nobody that shoots .40 over there and it is prolly hard to come by, might be the reason it comes in 9mm. If you want bigger caliber just get the the p220 Langdon in 45

9mm is popular in Germany for their bullseye matches, that's true, I'm not surprised they make a 9mm version of it for sale there seeing as they appear to have ditched all the other sport models.

However, .40 is just as popular for IPSC in Europe as it is everywhere else (especially in Germany, I have to say, virtually all the German shooters I have met at IPSC matches have them). The only exception would be Denmark, which has a .38 calibre max calibre restriction (and Portugal, where it's .22). I had an STI .40 here before the handgun ban in 1997, and that was nine years ago now. I used to use PMP ammo, made in South Africa, or PMC. Most people use Samson though (or rather, Samson components). S&B make .40 as well, as does Fiocchi (and basically everyone else).

There are even police forces here in the UK that use .40S&W (in the UMP).

The US market dwarfs the rest of the world put together though. I really can't see the point to a 9mm X-5. Even in Germany there are better choices for the BDMP league matches, the X-5 is more of an action pistol than a bullseye gun.

Even if there are people buying it in Germany, doesn't mean it makes anymore sense there than it does anywhere else.

Does it make more sense for IDPA maybe? I'm not clear on the rules but 9mm seems to be popular for IDPA, I thought single-actions were quite heavily restricted in IDPA rules though.
 
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