P90 Video

My point is don't try getting these guns from the US.

I was trying to show that the configuration is out there being made.
 
Don't just count REMF people for it's purpose as well. It can also be a support weapon for Tankers if they get knocked out, they have a good weapon for survival opposed to say a 9mm pistol only.

Same with Pilots, instead of a 16in or 20in C7 taking up space in the Chopper or fighter jet have one of those little puppies strapped in somewhere.
 
Yeah the 6mm special;) , at close to a buck a round expensive to shoot too? But did not get from RC nicholls, even if they did carry them they won't sell to me as I would be there competition.
 
in european contry where millitary caliber are verboten they will re-barrel gun in almost identical caliber so what about if the guns where re-cambered in a diffrent caliber 6mm or maybe HK new wonder round ? its not on the list
 
sigger69 said:
I don't see why FN Herstal couldn't do the calibre change if the mags can be modified.
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I believe that's the big problem. Because of the 90 degree twist the cartridges make in the magazine before they're pulled into the chamber, that mag is 5.7 specific. Basically, the spiral ramp design is specifically for the 5.7 rounds. It'd be difficult and probably quite time consuming for FN to change the mags to suit another round.
 
yes but it could be a VERY small modification like having the gun fire 5.6mm its the same round neck down 1mm nothing to change except a new barrel that can be done in the US before exporting
 
We should skip having the US involved with anything otherwise we are stuck fighting their export regulations and 16" barrel rule.
 
Longshot said:
I think a P90 in .17 HMR would work with minimal redesign.
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I wonder if FN could do this change which would not be only for the Canadian market.

To be able to fill up a 50 round magazine with rimfires would be cool! :D
 
It looks like an excellent weapon but! i personally think it would feel like a fisher price toy in my hands..

the look cool factor is still there
 
The mag problem just shouldn't be much of one, these things look like all plastic to me .... If they can't be dissassembled then just make up a new back/end to them for whatever round one desires, glue it on a "standard" mag body and VOILA (as long as the round's OAL and bas width is equal or smaller than the original round, it should fit) ! As for the U.S. regs, is it possible to import the things as un-barreled actions ? Not ideal, but it's a possible solution ... The one thing that bothers me with the P90 design is it's bottom/gravity ejection thru the fore-end, not sure I want to end up with a lap full of hot brass everytime I shoot the thing !
 
greentips said:
The PS90 apparently is imported from Belgium. I called it BS, if it is a tactical weapon that it is not a sporting firearm and it wont be imported into the US in the first place.
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I've been making complaints recently to various bureaucrats because the US import/export situation has totally lost any semblance of logic, they're not even following their own guidance anymore. Basically it boils down to the bureaucrats not having a clue what is being applied for, they've got a book prepared by ATF Technology Branch but they can't understand various bits of it.

I've actually spoken to people at the Technology Branch who've agreed with me that something is what I say it is, then I apply for import and the permit gets refused for various spurious reasons. I've had the same thing turned down for two different reasons. I've had to write directly to the Chief of the imports branch and give him the extension of the guy at the Technology Branch would told me it was legal to import.

I've also asked the NRA of America to look into the matter.

My advice is that if you're applying for anything remotely "military" to get pictures of it, get a letter from the Technology Branch and include that with your application. And use thick staples.

How can AR-15s be okay to export but a PS90 not be? How can it be illegal to import an AK-47 that uses a "large capacity military magazine" but the PS90 is okay to import and it uses a large capacity magazine? How can it be legal to temporarily import an AR-15 on a Form 6A but not a Swiss Arms PE90?

There's no sense to it.
 
The P90 is indeed well designed. But since the promo is trying to sell the gun they don't mention it's flaws. And the design falls into the same trap that the M-16 did, It's tolerances are tight enough to lose reliability. And the P90 goes one further, The rounds going from the magazine into the chamber are rotated, this doesn't help the feed reliability one bit. The P90 simply jams alot. Also the 5.7mm round does have wonderfully low recoil and can defeat body armor. The downside is that it's incredibly weak, weaker then the 9mm Para round, on top of the the rifle shape of the projectile also limits it's stopping power. While it will defeat armor, most people don't wear armor anyway and a round like this will simply just go clean through you. the 5.7mm isn't a rifle around, it's supposed to be a pistol round yet it's basically acts like a baby rifle round. What good is a round when you need half the magazine to neutralize your target.

Well, That's just me, I'm probably wrong on this anyways. It's just simple logic to me.
 
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