Package rifles

track said:
I know that people have a tight budget or don't want to invest alot of money into a firearm however, "you get what you pay for." It's beyond tha pale how much junk firearms are produced................vintage firearms and cartridges are much better!
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As with everything else in every era, a whole lot of cheapo stuff gets churned out along with a few expensive quality pieces for the discerning buyer, and then the years go by and all the garbage gets tossed and the only things still around being used from that long ago are the pieces that were premium quality already back then. The only place you're going to find mass-market dodgy stuff from half a century ago is in a landfill.
 
SuperCub said:
I was at the 100yd range early this spring and a young fellow came in and took the bench beside me. He didn't have much with him other than his new rifle in a case, ammo and a front rest. He started shooting with his bbl resting on the rest with nothing supporting the rear. I suggested that he might have better results if the rifle rested on the forend and there was a rear bag. I offered to let him use a sand bag I had with me. He then confessed that he didn't have much experience and asked if I could help him get it on paper and sighted in. We went back to the 25/50 range to get it on paper where I discovered that the mounts were loose as were the the receiver screws. He had just bought this new rifle and this is how it came to him.

IIRC it was an Axis in 6.5CM. Once we got everything fixed up, it was a pretty good shooter at about 1" at 100yds. He was quite pleased with it but would have certainly wasted a lot of ammo getting where he needed to be without a tune up.

We were all there at one time, esp us older guys who didn't have youtube to mentor us when problems came up.
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This, this and this again. In my personal experience, MOST of those package rifles will be just fine for your average plinker or once a year hunter. IF and this is the big part IF the rifle is set up properly, sadly most dont know how to do that. Rifle shows up appearing ready to shoot. They dont know how to adjust the scope to fit them in the rifle, they dont know they need to add loctite or confirm torque specs ect.

As pointed out earlier in this thread I had a buddy buy rings from amazon. I asked what brand it was some Chinese one. Just for his 22. Even I begrudgingly admitted it likely will be fine. Turns out he couldn't get on paper at 25 yards lol. Had to go buy new rings. He learned a valuable lesson there.
 
I work with guys who have been hunting far far longer than me. One tells me he missed a nice mule at 100 yards, twice. Tells me rifle must have lost zero when he dropped it. Savage axis package rifle too.

Don't you check it every season?

Some guys are hunters and that it. Don't care what it is, or even plink. 2 boxes of ammo will last them a life time. Dont care about fancy equipment.
 
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Every year I check the zero on a few rifles for a buddies family, a friend of there’s asked me to shoot his Remington 783 270 Winchester with a no name 3-9 scope on it 🤦‍♂️
I had a Burris full field at home so went to change the scope and as the OP found out with his buddies rifle this one was loose as well….IMG_0237.jpeg
After some lock tite and mounting the new scope off to the range
With blue box federal ammo it was shooting pretty dam good 🤩👍
 
Question is…. What to do with those Weaver or ?? Package 3-9x40’s Scopes ??

There’s certainly a fair number of them avail elsewhere and they don’t seem to move too quickly or be able to give them away.

I guess they could become a “Camp Optic” where In the very least it gets someone back up and running with their rig pretty quickly should an unfortunate situation arise with their main Scope.

Then again..I guess a package rifle could do the same.

At least there’s options for either the rifle, scope or whole setup for people
 
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