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PAL Wait Time
- Thread starter rgh470
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Approved!
My timeline for rpal - Quebec!
Late March 2019 - CFSRC course
Early April - CFSC course
Late April - receive results by mail
April 30th - get the in person paper signed by local PD, mailed regular snail mail. No boxes ticked.
May 9th - apparently received and opened at Miramichi
June 6th - File appeared online on the RCMP website, credit card was charged.
June 12th - did loi9/bill 9 course
August 15th - call rcmp cfp in miramichi - was told it was transferred to Quebec cfo(surete de Quebec) in early June they’ll get to it eventually. Asked to be transferred, got a machine message that they can’t answer the phone and to try again later.
September 4th - emailed the QC SQ cfo email (permis AT surete) asking politely what’s happening with my application
September 5th got a reply to my email saying that someone will contact me shortly.
September 6th - missed a call from unknown number. Voicemail in broken English(I’m fully bilingual but I guess some of my forms were in English) asking me to call back at cfp rcmp number extension some analyst for the SQ. The guy works noon to 7pm.
Sep 6 - called 3-4 times got voicemail, called again got through to the same agent that called me, did a simple phone interview, he asked to get in contact with my references and have them call in. I asked my references to call in, 1 confirmed that same day and the other didn’t have the time yet.
Sept 16 - called the cfo analyst again just to double check if 2nd reference called yet, nope. Contacted reference to call it in 2 minutes after I spoke with CFO. Got confirmation they spoke. 2 hours later my permit is issued on the website. Will see how long to physically get my license
Takeaways: 1) I’m certain if I didn’t email the cfo about my application it wouldn’t have moved along. 2) Quebec CFO makes 1 singular attempt to contact you and your references. Be on the ball guys, they probably don’t follow up with in limbo applications.
My timeline for rpal - Quebec!
Late March 2019 - CFSRC course
Early April - CFSC course
Late April - receive results by mail
April 30th - get the in person paper signed by local PD, mailed regular snail mail. No boxes ticked.
May 9th - apparently received and opened at Miramichi
June 6th - File appeared online on the RCMP website, credit card was charged.
June 12th - did loi9/bill 9 course
August 15th - call rcmp cfp in miramichi - was told it was transferred to Quebec cfo(surete de Quebec) in early June they’ll get to it eventually. Asked to be transferred, got a machine message that they can’t answer the phone and to try again later.
September 4th - emailed the QC SQ cfo email (permis AT surete) asking politely what’s happening with my application
September 5th got a reply to my email saying that someone will contact me shortly.
September 6th - missed a call from unknown number. Voicemail in broken English(I’m fully bilingual but I guess some of my forms were in English) asking me to call back at cfp rcmp number extension some analyst for the SQ. The guy works noon to 7pm.
Sep 6 - called 3-4 times got voicemail, called again got through to the same agent that called me, did a simple phone interview, he asked to get in contact with my references and have them call in. I asked my references to call in, 1 confirmed that same day and the other didn’t have the time yet.
Sept 16 - called the cfo analyst again just to double check if 2nd reference called yet, nope. Contacted reference to call it in 2 minutes after I spoke with CFO. Got confirmation they spoke. 2 hours later my permit is issued on the website. Will see how long to physically get my license
Takeaways: 1) I’m certain if I didn’t email the cfo about my application it wouldn’t have moved along. 2) Quebec CFO makes 1 singular attempt to contact you and your references. Be on the ball guys, they probably don’t follow up with in limbo applications.
4.5 months and still waiting. 1 box ticked. Looks like this is gon be a long haul type of situation for me. Gon try e-mailing the CFO soon, instead of the usual calls and see if that does anything. If not, an e-mail to my local MP will be sent out. After that, I have no idea what else I can do.
I had to email my MP twice. He didn't even reply to me personally. He has his staff do it. But they basically said that because I had a peace bond issued to me, they're probably sitting on it to see if anything else arises. The peace bond apparently also waves a "very large" red flag and that my application has most likely been denied and I have not gotten the letter in the mail yet. But online, it still says it's "in progress", and each time I call in, they say the CFO has it.
However, I'm not sure if you read one of my previous entries. But if you are feeling it's taking too long, or you end up waiting as long as I have (just shy of 2 years), a member of the CCFR informed me that there is a court order called a mandamus. It's basically a court order to tell public services, like the RCMP, to do their job. I have yet to confront the CFO with this knowledge that I now possess, but when I call them next week, I'm going to tell them that if my application still hasn't been approved (or denied), then if I do not hear back from them by October 31st, I will seek legal assistance in perusing a mandamus order. They might be waiting for the election to see if we get a pro-gun or anti-gun government. But regardless, 2 years is a long enough wait, and I'm going to take action now. Hope this helps.
I posted here last month. But to reiterate and maybe shed some knowledge on the Ontario process - here it is:
Miramichi received my RPAL application on May 24/2019
It was issued as of June 27th
I called several times after I noticed it was issued (called every week, multiple times a week after 5-10 business days had passed since issuing)
I finally received my licence in the mail August 2nd.
Overall, it's a grueling experience since they go at their own pace and they were using the 'printer malfunction' line for months (April-July)
If you have anything on your record or aren't a Canadian citizen.. prepare to be denied or wait an extremely long time. I have a clean record and was born in Ontario.
Call the CFO if you've had your licence issued.
Currently purchased my first pistol - sig sauer p226 X-five
Goodluck
Miramichi received my RPAL application on May 24/2019
It was issued as of June 27th
I called several times after I noticed it was issued (called every week, multiple times a week after 5-10 business days had passed since issuing)
I finally received my licence in the mail August 2nd.
Overall, it's a grueling experience since they go at their own pace and they were using the 'printer malfunction' line for months (April-July)
If you have anything on your record or aren't a Canadian citizen.. prepare to be denied or wait an extremely long time. I have a clean record and was born in Ontario.
Call the CFO if you've had your licence issued.
Currently purchased my first pistol - sig sauer p226 X-five
Goodluck
Time line for my Rpal.
Mailed August 06,2019
Miramichi received August 12,2019 (day 1)
Credit card payment processed August 28,2019 (day 17)
system show initial process has completed Aug29(day18)
Approved and license issued Sept 09 (Day 29)
License card printed and mailed on Sept 10 (day 30)
in my mailbox Sept 16 (day 36)
I am in Ontario , references not contacted
Mailed August 06,2019
Miramichi received August 12,2019 (day 1)
Credit card payment processed August 28,2019 (day 17)
system show initial process has completed Aug29(day18)
Approved and license issued Sept 09 (Day 29)
License card printed and mailed on Sept 10 (day 30)
in my mailbox Sept 16 (day 36)
I am in Ontario , references not contacted
Application received on August 21, 2019
Application approved and license issued on September 19, 2019.
Currently still awaiting for the physical card to come in mail. Called the CFO today and was told that my license is listed as valid but hasn't been issued yet, should expect it within 3 weeks. Not very hopeful considering many people received theirs a week after they've been approved. Hopefully it comes earlier.
Application approved and license issued on September 19, 2019.
Currently still awaiting for the physical card to come in mail. Called the CFO today and was told that my license is listed as valid but hasn't been issued yet, should expect it within 3 weeks. Not very hopeful considering many people received theirs a week after they've been approved. Hopefully it comes earlier.
Approved!
My timeline for rpal - Quebec!
Late March 2019 - CFSRC course
Early April - CFSC course
Late April - receive results by mail
April 30th - get the in person paper signed by local PD, mailed regular snail mail. No boxes ticked.
May 9th - apparently received and opened at Miramichi
June 6th - File appeared online on the RCMP website, credit card was charged.
June 12th - did loi9/bill 9 course
August 15th - call rcmp cfp in miramichi - was told it was transferred to Quebec cfo(surete de Quebec) in early June they’ll get to it eventually. Asked to be transferred, got a machine message that they can’t answer the phone and to try again later.
September 4th - emailed the QC SQ cfo email (permis AT surete) asking politely what’s happening with my application
September 5th got a reply to my email saying that someone will contact me shortly.
September 6th - missed a call from unknown number. Voicemail in broken English(I’m fully bilingual but I guess some of my forms were in English) asking me to call back at cfp rcmp number extension some analyst for the SQ. The guy works noon to 7pm.
Sep 6 - called 3-4 times got voicemail, called again got through to the same agent that called me, did a simple phone interview, he asked to get in contact with my references and have them call in. I asked my references to call in, 1 confirmed that same day and the other didn’t have the time yet.
Sept 16 - called the cfo analyst again just to double check if 2nd reference called yet, nope. Contacted reference to call it in 2 minutes after I spoke with CFO. Got confirmation they spoke. 2 hours later my permit is issued on the website. Will see how long to physically get my license
Takeaways: 1) I’m certain if I didn’t email the cfo about my application it wouldn’t have moved along. 2) Quebec CFO makes 1 singular attempt to contact you and your references. Be on the ball guys, they probably don’t follow up with in limbo applications.
Hi, by any chance, do you know the email for BC? I'd like to send them a message regarding my pending application. Thanks.
Hi, by any chance, do you know the email for BC? I'd like to send them a message regarding my pending application. Thanks.
Sorry cant help you with BC. I found the QC one by searching this thread actually. And it was listed on the SQ(quebec's state police, replaces the RCMP here) website.
It has been 11 months for me. I am in Montreal, Quebec.
You should really really email permis@surete DOT qc DOT ca
Hi, by any chance, do you know the email for BC? I'd like to send them a message regarding my pending application. Thanks.
The last time I contacted the BC CFO's office, I enquired about contacting the CFO directly, as that is what some people in the forums were suggesting. She said they weren't allowed to release that information and if they need to contact me, they will do so. If you're at the point of pulling your hair out, I did contact the CCFR and asked them what I could do. They suggested to email my MP and see if they could help. If that does not work, you can keep enquiring about your application by calling them repeatedly which, lets face it, nobody has time to sit on hold for 30 minutes a day for a 6 minute phone call. Again, if that doesn't work and you're determined to get an answer, you can get a "writ of mandamus". The CCFR's operations coordinator's definition of a writ of mandamus was "The legal action would be an application called Mandamus, literally a court order to the RCMP to do their statutory duty/government function (in this case giving you a decision on your PAL application instead of continuing to sit on it). You would need an administrative law lawyer, or a senior civil litigator, in your jurisdiction for this." I have been waiting patiently for a few days shy of 2 years. I called them last week, a very nice woman answered the phone. She told me the CFO has my application and they will send a note informing them I've called. I told her if she has any idea where my application is in terms of it's progress. She said no and that new applicants usually go under more scrutiny, so it goes to different departments and that prolongs the process. I told her I've been waiting for almost 2 years, and I've been advised to get a writ of mandamus, but I would prefer if I didn't have to take that route and all I want to do is go hunting with my bosses. I told her that They invited me out, I got my hunters number and all the tickets and all I need is my PAL so I can provide my own firearm and ammo and not be so reliant on others. She said she will include that in her note to the CFO and when they read it, they should act quicker on it. I'm hoping that is the case.
Hopefully my little writeup helps you and others in our situation. Good luck.
Application received on August 21, 2019
Application approved and license issued on September 19, 2019.
Currently still awaiting for the physical card to come in mail. Called the CFO today and was told that my license is listed as valid but hasn't been issued yet, should expect it within 3 weeks. Not very hopeful considering many people received theirs a week after they've been approved. Hopefully it comes earlier.
Mine got approved september 14th. Still waiting on card as well, but bought my first rifle the same day it got approved.
You can call the cfp number and ask them for your license number. When you have that you can buy and own without having the physical card yet. Just make sure you have that number on you so you can prove you have your PAL/R-PAL
I thought my application process was long before reading some posts:
Sept-03 - application received
Sept-18 - Missed Call from unknown number (corresponded to date of letter received 1 week later)
Sept-25 - phoned in to inquire on "further details needed" in the status (didnt write expiry of CC info and forgot to sign)
- Paid over the phone
Sept-30 - Licence issued, please allow 2 weeks for mail
no references contacted - no boxes checked off - PAL and RPAL together
now waiting for good old canada post.
Sept-03 - application received
Sept-18 - Missed Call from unknown number (corresponded to date of letter received 1 week later)
Sept-25 - phoned in to inquire on "further details needed" in the status (didnt write expiry of CC info and forgot to sign)
- Paid over the phone
Sept-30 - Licence issued, please allow 2 weeks for mail
no references contacted - no boxes checked off - PAL and RPAL together
now waiting for good old canada post.
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You've been talking about the "writ of mandamus " for over a month now. Are you going to actually do it or are you just gonna keep just saying it? What are the court costs involved in this? Let's be honest, are YOU willing to take it to this step?The last time I contacted the BC CFO's office, I enquired about contacting the CFO directly, as that is what some people in the forums were suggesting. She said they weren't allowed to release that information and if they need to contact me, they will do so. If you're at the point of pulling your hair out, I did contact the CCFR and asked them what I could do. They suggested to email my MP and see if they could help. If that does not work, you can keep enquiring about your application by calling them repeatedly which, lets face it, nobody has time to sit on hold for 30 minutes a day for a 6 minute phone call. Again, if that doesn't work and you're determined to get an answer, you can get a "writ of mandamus". The CCFR's operations coordinator's definition of a writ of mandamus was "The legal action would be an application called Mandamus, literally a court order to the RCMP to do their statutory duty/government function (in this case giving you a decision on your PAL application instead of continuing to sit on it). You would need an administrative law lawyer, or a senior civil litigator, in your jurisdiction for this." I have been waiting patiently for a few days shy of 2 years. I called them last week, a very nice woman answered the phone. She told me the CFO has my application and they will send a note informing them I've called. I told her if she has any idea where my application is in terms of it's progress. She said no and that new applicants usually go under more scrutiny, so it goes to different departments and that prolongs the process. I told her I've been waiting for almost 2 years, and I've been advised to get a writ of mandamus, but I would prefer if I didn't have to take that route and all I want to do is go hunting with my bosses. I told her that They invited me out, I got my hunters number and all the tickets and all I need is my PAL so I can provide my own firearm and ammo and not be so reliant on others. She said she will include that in her note to the CFO and when they read it, they should act quicker on it. I'm hoping that is the case.
Hopefully my little writeup helps you and others in our situation. Good luck.
You've been talking about the "writ of mandamus " for over a month now. Are you going to actually do it or are you just gonna keep just saying it? What are the court costs involved in this? Let's be honest, are YOU willing to take it to this step?
I'm waiting until the federal election to see if the liberals get in and actually push gun bans, or if we get a conservative government that will allow people to keep their property. I don't know why you're getting all uppidy about me informing others about the writ of mandamus. How do I know if they've seen any of my other messages talking about it? I'm sure if I asked "have you read any of my other posts about something called the 'writ of mandamus'?" you'd still snap and ask if I've gone through with it. Anywho, I don't know what the costs are or process or anything like that is. I am waiting to see who forms government after Oct 21 and what kind of government. That's just me. Until then, I will keep letting others know that there is another option than sitting patiently and twiddling their thumbs, but ultimately, it's up to them to decide.
