Pallas, Grizzly or Churchill

[snakeyes76]

looking for a budget defense shotgun. it's between Pallas P-Tac, Dominion arms grizzly or Chruchill. all 12ga pump actions. 13,14 or 15"
anyone have experience with one or all of these?

 

[randyhub]

Have had a 12.5" Grizzly for years.

It is my only shotgun now, heavy, ugly, but a dependable tank of a gun.

 

[0faustus0]

Grizzly

It is an 870 clone .....

 

[Butcherbill]

Grizzly, 12.5” if it’s an older generation or a 14” if it’s the newest generation.

 

[snakeyes76]

Grizzly for the win i guess.

 

[Jay]

Another vote for the Chinese made 870 clone Dominion Arms Grizzly.

IIRC I bought mine from CanadaAmmo's second shipment, it's a 12.5 inch barrel, cylinder bore and bead sight. Flash forward a bunch of years & CanadaAmmo was clearing out the 20ga version, so my wife bought one. BOTH have been 100% reliable and while they are heavier, they are built like a tank. And notice, the 20ga is the proper scaled down frame!

 

[snakeyes76]

i wish they still had the 20ga but they only have the 12ga 14"

 

[johNTO]

If you're looking for a lighter version (for all day carry) you should consider a 12" Churchill. Bought my BNIB for $240....

 

[Sir Plus]

How much can you trust your life to a sub 300$ shotgun?

 

[Butcherbill]

I completely trust the $250 870 I bought with my life lol.

 

[0faustus0]

If it is a Grizzly or any other Chinese 870 clone that I have tested .... yes, I woult trust it with my life .....

 

[randyhub]

I actually feel my Grizzly 870 clone is built tougher than my Remington 870. Trust it? Well it is my bush when hiking with the family. I am pretty good with slugs and the ghost rings.

 

[GTNgo]

Funny that i found this thread... im debating between the churchill 14” wood or the grizzly 14” both are around $300 now. I like the wood on the Churchill and it only weighs 5lbs but the grizzly is basically an 870 but heavy at 8lbs...... dilemma. Which one should i get ?????

 

[Spo0nFED]

Get the norc. I used to have a Churchill but it had lifter problems and would not feed shells properly

 

[Farmerwithguns]

I just went through this same dilemma. Went with the 14" pistol grip Grizzly from Canadaammo. It's the mag fed version, so I hope it's reliable.

 

[Riven]

Older grizzly is great. Only had a small feed issue that was easily fixed with a S&J Hardware upgrade spring and followed kit.

 

[timandkimandshea]

For the same money you can get a hacksaw, an M37, Mossberg 500, 870 all of which are better choices IMO.
Chinese SKS's and pistols, not shotguns.
That has been my experiences.

 

[GTNgo]

But this video made me want the Churchill lol

https://youtu.be/9Zg6j2h-w-s

 

[GTNgo]

For the same money you can get a hacksaw, an M37, Mossberg 500, 870 all of which are better choices IMO.
Chinese SKS's and pistols, not shotguns.
That has been my experiences.

Where can you get a mossberg or 870 with 14” barrel for $300??

 

[yomomma]

But this video made me want the Churchill lol

https://youtu.be/9Zg6j2h-w-s

Not impressed with people shooting live trees just gor the hell of it. Drove me nuts at the farm seeing every tree along the trail with holes in it. Darn nephews