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Pamela Anderson make offer to Canadian Sealer’s Association

http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/News/Regional/2013-12-17/article-3547078/Simpsons-producer-Sam-Simon%2C-Pamela-Anderson-make-offer-to-Canadian-Sealer%26rsquo%3Bs-Association-in-St.-John%26rsquo%3Bs/1

Mark Critch ambushes anti-sealing news conference
ST. JOHN'S — Simpsons producer Sam Simon and actress Pamela Anderson, who is also the PETA honorary director, are visiting the Canadian Sealers Association in St. John’s today to offer $1 million to the group if it facilitates a government buyout of sealers from the sealing industry.

Simon, who is described in a news release as terminally ill, states in a letter that “unlike recent government seal bailouts benefiting a foreign-owned fur processor, this money would go directly to Canadian sealers.”

Simon and Anderson were in the Atlantic province to deliver the letter to Canadian Sealers Association President Eldred Woodford.

"With bans firmly in place across Europe, Russia, the U.S., and other countries, the writing is on the wall: The seal trade is finished," the letter states.

During a press conference where Anderson and Simon were speaking, Newfoundland actor/comedian Mark Critch ambushed Anderson with a cheque of his own. He told the actress she could have it if she gave up acting.

"We've all seen the cruel videos, Barb Wire, Bay Watch Nights, Barbarella," he said.

"Stripperella," Anderson corrected.

"Stripperella, sorry, thank you. They make me embarrassed to be a Canadian," Critch said. Anderson has famously given the same quote about the seal hunt.

"There are so many members of the sealers' association, it breaks down to $165 a person. Will you give up your livelihood for $165?," Critch asked the actress.

Anderson insisted the cheque, from Simon's foundation, was simply a catalyst for a government bailout. Dan Mathews, PETA's senior vice-president, elaborated.

"This is not a buy-out, this is a bonus to get the government to seriously talk about giving the workers the bonus they need, just as other failed industries have done," he said.

Fish, Food and Allied Workers (FFAW) president Earle McCurdy said PETA's offer was "offensive and exasperating."
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I find it funny the only reason for failure in the industry is from people like them, unlike say the auto industry or other such production sectors where bailouts were given.
 
Mark Critch was the only part of it that was newsworthy. They'll have to come up with a lot more than $165 for me to give up my sealing license, that's for sure.
 
So they get everyone to give up their seal license and put a stop to all seal hunts... And then what? The seal population grows each year and they start to deplete the fish populations even more than they already are? The seals natural predators are being eliminated by man, sharks being caught and their fins cut off and then thrown back and left to die. They need to put a stop to that first...

I don't think the seal hunts need to end, they just need to get rid of the clubs and kill in a more "humane" way so that people will stop seeing the hunt as barbaric.
 
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime.

I wonder if this works with handouts? Teach a man not to work and receive handouts and he'll be expecting handouts for life...
 
Anderson insisted the cheque, from Simon's foundation, was simply a catalyst for a government bailout.
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So, why would the government want to "bailout" a profitable business that is generating tax dollars for them?

If PETA is so concerned, why don't THEY buy out the entire sealing industry. Every year on on ongoing basis?
 
^I was going to quote the same line SandRoad. I wonder how much they figure the 'bailout' would cost? Or, most likely, they don't concern themselves with such irritating details.
 
AndrewNS said:
I don't think the seal hunts need to end, they just need to get rid of the clubs and kill in a more "humane" way so that people will stop seeing the hunt as barbaric.
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Sounds like you've accepted some of the propaganda as fact.

The 'club' (or hakapik) doesn't see much use in the industry any longer, with the small caliber centerfire rifle taking over most of the work. Even so, the hakapik is quite humane. As reported by the Canadian Veterinary Journal in 2002:

The calvarium of the skull of harp seals and hooded seals, at least up to 1 y of age, is very thin as compared with that of terrestrial mammals of comparable size, such as raccoons and dogs (personal observation, Daoust). Therefore, the skulls of these seals can be crushed easily by 1 or a few blows from a hakapik, destroying both underlying cerebral hemispheres.
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The regulations that mandate the standard for the club, the hakapik or the firearms would rival parts of the Firearms Act for complexity.

On top of that, however, we have been subjected to increasingly stringent regulation to ensure that the animal is dead.

There used to be what was called the "blink test", mandating that you ensure that the skull was crushed and the seal wasn't considered dead until you could poke it in the eye and get no blinking reflex.

Now we have to manually ensure that both sides of the skull have been crushed, and that a full minute has elapsed after the axillary arteries (under the front flippers) have been cut to bleed out the animal.

Compare that to the regulations governing the beef, chicken or pork industries, or even what is simply required of you as a hunter of wild game, and tell me that it isn't "humane".
 
When I read the headline I thought possibly PA was going to offer to spend a weekend with MRCLARK to stop sealing. Now that would be a video even I would pay for.:)
 
It'd be a cold day in hell before I listened to anything an organization whose mandate includes chucking my dog out into the wilderness has to say.
 
they just need to get rid of the clubs and kill in a more humane way
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What???

Obviously you don't realize how tough seals are, they are like vampires or zombies, they just won't die! I have to SHOOT them FIRST, then strike them in the head with a hakapik and finally take a knife and cut them on either side of their bodies. They are tough critters.

FYI one of the biggest opponents of the hunt is against removing the hakapik while the hunt continues.
 
CV32 said:
Sounds like you've accepted some of the propaganda as fact.

The 'club' (or hakapik) doesn't see much use in the industry any longer, with the small caliber centerfire rifle taking over most of the work. Even so, the hakapik is quite humane. As reported by the Canadian Veterinary Journal in 2002:



The regulations that mandate the standard for the club, the hakapik or the firearms would rival parts of the Firearms Act for complexity.

On top of that, however, we have been subjected to increasingly stringent regulation to ensure that the animal is dead.

There used to be what was called the "blink test", mandating that you ensure that the skull was crushed and the seal wasn't considered dead until you could poke it in the eye and get no blinking reflex.

Now we have to manually ensure that both sides of the skull have been crushed, and that a full minute has elapsed after the axillary arteries (under the front flippers) have been cut to bleed out the animal.

Compare that to the regulations governing the beef, chicken or pork industries, or even what is simply required of you as a hunter of wild game, and tell me that it isn't "humane".
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Well... For the cost of a bullet, I can't see any reason to hunt with a club... Effective or not, it is still a little barbaric to kill something by beating it in the head with a stick. In my opinion, if it takes more than one hit to make the kill, it isn't humane.
 
The club is humane. I would rather be on the ice with men equipped with them than with small bore rifles. Clubs don't have ricochet potential and don't leave a hole in the pelt. I have never sealed but I have trapped most of my life and shooting furbearers in the head is a bloody mess most times. (when skinning) I support the seal hunt and hope all of these eco nuts have no success in their crusade.

Darryl
 
CV32 said:
Sounds like you've accepted some of the propaganda as fact.

The 'club' (or hakapik) doesn't see much use in the industry any longer, with the small caliber centerfire rifle taking over most of the work. Even so, the hakapik is quite humane. As reported by the Canadian Veterinary Journal in 2002:



The regulations that mandate the standard for the club, the hakapik or the firearms would rival parts of the Firearms Act for complexity.

On top of that, however, we have been subjected to increasingly stringent regulation to ensure that the animal is dead.

There used to be what was called the "blink test", mandating that you ensure that the skull was crushed and the seal wasn't considered dead until you could poke it in the eye and get no blinking reflex.

Now we have to manually ensure that both sides of the skull have been crushed, and that a full minute has elapsed after the axillary arteries (under the front flippers) have been cut to bleed out the animal.

Compare that to the regulations governing the beef, chicken or pork industries, or even what is simply required of you as a hunter of wild game, and tell me that it isn't "humane".
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I've done a lot of work in the hog, chicken and beef processing plants and there is little that compares to how these animals spend the last hours of their life. (Not just the kill). You'd have to be one careless or cruel SOB to do anything comparable hunting, sealing or modern trapping.
 
AndrewNS said:
Effective or not, it is still a little barbaric to kill something by beating it in the head with a stick.
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You think its a little "barbaric" because you're projecting your emotion based opinion into the equation, and ignoring the science. Killing anything isn't pretty. Ask the animals that gave you your supper or leather products.

In my opinion, if it takes more than one hit to make the kill, it isn't humane.
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I am guessing you aren't a hunter, then, because you would never shoot more than once.
 
kennymo said:
I've done a lot of work in the hog, chicken and beef processing plants and there is little that compares to how these animals spend the last hours of their life. (Not just the kill). You'd have to be one careless or cruel SOB to do anything comparable hunting, sealing or modern trapping.
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I suspect so. But its easy for the Pamela Andersons of the world to ignore that reality. None of these kinds of people would want to donate money to a cause that might take away their Coach purses or the leather interior of their luxury cars. :rolleyes:
 
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