Para USA to discontinue making pistols!

gdawg said:
Here is some more factual info from a gun magazine journalist in another forum:


I had both a Para Ord and a Para USA at one time; an LTC and an Elite Commander, respectively. Notably, these two models are mostly evolutionary in that the Elite Commander is sort of Para USA's version of the old Para Ord LTC.

To give a full backstory of why people hate on Para it's quite simple: They were an amazing 1911 manufacturer that brought out an insane amount of cool inventions and renditions on the 1911 platform, and were rewarded for their efforts by bought out by Remington. And here's where it gets ####ty. Para opened the Pineville plant in NC a year before closing the Toronto factory. Subsequently, a bunch of Para Ord production line workers reached the inevitable conclusion that they were going to get their walking papers eventually, right around the same time as Para ordered a ramping up of production in order to build up a parts inventory to get them through the period of time that it would take to tool up manufacturing in Florida. Go tell a bunch of people they're fired, and then tell them to make you a bunch of stuff first? Seems legit.

So needless to say quality went to #### for the last of Para's Canadian-made days, and it got worse when they went south because some new assembly line employees were learning the ropes while using probably some of the worst. 1911. parts. ever. made. Seriously. Think asymmetrical frames. That level of bad.

Now, of course, this was all years ago. Modern Para USA guns are perfectly serviceable pistols. Mine needed a bit of a break-in time to wear due to some burrs on the feed ramp (I could have just polished it... but for reasons (laziness) I didn't) but it's been 100% reliable for at least the last 500 rounds. They also do a good job of pairing their pistols up with good feature sets. Adjustable triggers, better sights, etc etc. I love mine. It's also worth noting that the single stacks started being made from forged frames a while back so they are really properly good now. Most of the scoffing is a result of their reputation alone far more than it is their actual performance. And it's also a phenomenon that's a bit more virulent up here. Down in the US there are still those that will swear against Para, but it's more an anti-fanboy situation, and everyone has those.
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except he has a lot of dates and timelines wrong among other things...
 
sailor723 said:
How will changing the name improve the product?
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They will be made in Huntsville by Remington instead of Pineville by Para.
Freedom Group bought Para in 2011 BTW.... So none if this is really a surprise.
The companies being relocated and their current locations are:
Advanced Armament Corp, Lawrenceville, Georgia; Montana Rifleman, Kalispell, Montana; TAPCO, Kennesaw, Georgia; LAR Manufacturing, West Jordan, Utah; Para-Ordnance, Pineville, North Carolina; and DPMS, St. Cloud, Minnesota. Additionally, the Bushmaster production and Remington 1911 production lines will also be relocating from Ilion, New York.
 
I would be interested in seeing a new production Remington 1911, hope they have gunmakers running the production not bean counters.
 
Good riddance indeed!

Had a P16-40 that was DOA right out of the box. They fixed it (when they were in Scarboro), and I sold it as fast as I could.

Didn't make much sense in Canada, really. A hi capacity .45 or .40, neutered to 10, and a big fat grip. Couple that with piss poor QC, and its no wonder they are no more.
 
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