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harleyman

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My title is Harleyman and I joined this site a few days ago.
I joined thinking that this was a forum of people that feel that the current laws need to be changed and would stand up for their rights but what I have read on the posts of a lot but to be fair not all seems to be paranoid hermits afraid of the law.so they go along with it and snipe whenever they get a chance.My grammer has been criticised and my spelling,well excuse me but I never took a typing course and sometimes it takes too long to go and check my spelling but perhaps if it is not spelled excact then I guess some people cannot look it up in the dictionary.
I believe that if I am over 50 years old and have hunted all my life and held hunting permits every year and owned my guns for years that I should not have to buy permits again to own them as they are already mine.I live in CANADA and this is a free country and if I hunt on my own land and do not bother anyone else that I sould be left alone.I buy a hunting license every year because it expires but if I do not go hunting I do not buy one and if I do not buy a new gun then I should not have to buy a permit for that.
I will go to court and fight for my rights and I will not just go along with the rest of the sheep so this will be my last post in this site as I find it pretty much useless.
Thanks
A free Canadian citizen
 
Crazy.kayaker said:
have you checked out the political section. You sound like you belong in there.

Anyways Welcome and hope you change your mind about us.
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yes dont let the parinoid quacks get to you. just laugh to yourself. this site is filled with useful info, however it also houses alot of tards as well. just ignore them, and move along. check out the political side of the forums, and start putting your money where your mouth is. welcome to the site, hope you change your mind.
 
Well there is a diversity of opinion in that thread. I'm not sure why that alone would upset someone.

The confusion in that thread was due to lack of distinction between an illegal act and a crime. The government decides what's illegal but the conscience decides what is a crime. He comitted an illegal act, but not a crime.

He should have been aware of the consequences of his actions, whether he was acting rightly (in a moral sense) or wrongly (he was "wrong" in a legal sense). If you choose morality over legality, you still must know and accept your fate should you be caught.

Fighting an immoral law is an honourable act. St Thomas Aquinas argued that it is indeed our obligation. The poster would have been well advised, however, not to complain about this fate.
 
To live outside the law you must be honest (Dylan).
So good to have the paperwork when the cops are rummaging through your guns.
You have very few rights, good to fight for them, but not on a battlefield of the enemy's choosing. Good luck, plenty of people here would understand your position.
 
If you have not already done so please consider joining The National Firearms Association and or the Canadian Shooting Sports Association. They are there to help with the fight..
 
So what is this good for?

Ceska said:
A gun owner finding CGN useless, good one. Best of luck in court you'll need it.
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This illustrates my point when,is CGN here to help or is it here just for entertainment? Do you know any people with guns that are not registered and do not intend to and does that make them criminals???
 
harleyman said:
This illustrates my point when,is CGN here to help or is it here just for entertainment? Do you know any people with guns that are not registered and do not intend to and does that make them criminals???
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Yes, it does make them criminals.
Does it make them wrong? No.

Just because something is criminal doesn't make it wrong, and because something isn't wrong doesn't make it any less criminal.

I personally don't think you did anything wrong, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a crime.
If you're making some sort of stand here, great. I'm all for it. I wish you the absolute best of luck, and I'll be pulling for you.


Wrong? No.
Criminal? Yes.
 
Then how do we or I change the law

abrasive said:
Yes, it does make them criminals.
Does it make them wrong? No.

Just because something is criminal doesn't make it wrong, and because something isn't wrong doesn't make it any less criminal.

I personally don't think you did anything wrong, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a crime.
If you're making some sort of stand here, great. I'm all for it. I wish you the absolute best of luck, and I'll be pulling for you.


Wrong? No.
Criminal? Yes.
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You see I do not believe that those people should be criminals,I did not do anything wrong as far as I am concerned and I intend to fight for that belief,I would be willing to bet that there are thousands of old farmers with at least one gun in there house or barn that do not have any license and they should be allowed to do that.
 
harleyman said:
You see I do not believe that those people should be criminals,I did not do anything wrong as far as I am concerned and I intend to fight for that belief,I would be willing to bet that there are thousands of old farmers with at least one gun in there house or barn that do not have any license and they should be allowed to do that.
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I, and most others here I'd bet, completely agree with you.
However, thinking something shouldn't be illegal doesn't make it any less illegal.
Like I said before, if you're going to draw a line in the sand here, I'm with you and I wish you all the best. On a personal note, I don't think this is the best way to go about that, but since I'm not the one jocking up and putting it on the line, I'm the last one to get too critical.

The advice you received in the last thread was still mostly correct. You appear to have commited a crime, so you'd best lawyer up and get ready for a fight. The defence of "Well, it shouldn't be against the law, so there." isn't going to work.

As far as the skeptical nature you've run into, I suspect it has more to do with your apparent apathy to the laws making your motives less than sincere. Others have actively gone after these non sensical laws in an effort to challenge them (sometimes only to be railroaded and drilled later on once the limelight faded).
I'm certainly not saying I agree with that mentality, but I recognize the validity of that position.

Christopher Reeve didn't give a s**t about people with spinal cord injuries until he fell off a horse.
On the other hand, that doesn't discredit the work he did to raise awareness and move research forward.
Catch my drift?
 
Juster said:
We change the law by voting the Conservatives in with a majority to get rid of the registry.
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I wish the libertarians were stronger. Every time I vote Conservative it's like making a deal with the devil. It's like in the US where you can have abortions or guns, but not both.
 
Superman never started anything

abrasive said:
I, and most others here I'd bet, completely agree with you.
However, thinking something shouldn't be illegal doesn't make it any less illegal.
Like I said before, if you're going to draw a line in the sand here, I'm with you and I wish you all the best. On a personal note, I don't think this is the best way to go about that, but since I'm not the one jocking up and putting it on the line, I'm the last one to get too critical.

The advice you received in the last thread was still mostly correct. You appear to have commited a crime, so you'd best lawyer up and get ready for a fight. The defence of "Well, it shouldn't be against the law, so there." isn't going to work.

As far as the skeptical nature you've run into, I suspect it has more to do with your apparent apathy to the laws making your motives less than sincere. Others have actively gone after these non sensical laws in an effort to challenge them (sometimes only to be railroaded and drilled later on once the limelight faded).
I'm certainly not saying I agree with that mentality, but I recognize the validity of that position.

Christopher Reeve didn't give a s**t about people with spinal cord injuries until he fell off a horse.
On the other hand, that doesn't discredit the work he did to raise awareness and move research forward.
Catch my drift?
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Not even Superman started a fight but he most often finished it,I have Lawyered up and I now intend to fight this crap as best as I can but I do not have a lot of money to throw at this either but when my home is invaded and my privacy I do get in a mood.
 
harleyman said:
My title is Harleyman and I joined this site a few days ago.
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I will go to court and fight for my rights and I will not just go along with the rest of the sheep so this will be my last post in this site as I find it pretty much useless.
Thanks
A free Canadian citizen
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Let us know how you make out in court and how much it cost you!

;)
 
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