Parker Hale 1100M 458

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Hi fellows nutz,
Quick présentation of my new acquitision, a very nice Parker Hale 1100M in 458 win mag. Got it from the EE. Very nice rifle,typical mauser action and internal magazine so cant go wrong with that! The parker Hale is a replacement for the win 70 supergrade 458 i sold about 10 years ago,i know i deserve to be slapped...

Baçk to the Parker Hale, that is a very neat rifle and the finish is looking awesome,very nice stock too. The butt pad isnt original and is deteriorated a bit so i will replace in a near futur. The rifle have base for scope and also got a scope in the deal,a 2.5x 20mm wich i might try next summer. The shells in the pictures are reloads i kept when i sold my winchester 70 since factory ammo are damn expensive for that big toy.
Not needing a 458 isnt a reason to not get one right?:d

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Nice Rifle! Looks like you're ready for Water Buffalo in the Northern Territory, or Cape Buffalo in the Caprivi, or perhaps Elephant in the Okavango swamps!
 
So you're the one ;) I had my eye on that rifle but didn't jump fast enough. I had one, sold it, and almost immediately regretted it.

Those are well built rifles. Not the prettiest, to my eye, but the people who built those knew how to put a large bore rifle together.

On mine the entire action and barrel were glass bedded. There were two additional recoil lugs brazed to the underside of the barrel, one had a tie-down screw to the forend. Weight was added to the butt and forend, and it came out at 10 lbs even for the empty rifle, with no scope or bases. The glass bedding is tight... it was really difficult to get the action back in the stock.

The express open sight was nicely zeroed for 500 gr factory equivalent velocity loads. The magazine held four, but I couldn't get the fourth depressed far enough to chamber a fifth.
 
9.3mauser said:
So you're the one ;) I had my eye on that rifle but didn't jump fast enough. I had one, sold it, and almost immediately regretted it.

Those are well built rifles. Not the prettiest, to my eye, but the people who built those knew how to put a large bore rifle together.

On mine the entire action and barrel were glass bedded. There were two additional recoil lugs brazed to the underside of the barrel, one had a tie-down screw to the forend. Weight was added to the butt and forend, and it came out at 10 lbs even for the empty rifle, with no scope or bases. The glass bedding is tight... it was really difficult to get the action back in the stock.

The express open sight was nicely zeroed for 500 gr factory equivalent velocity loads. The magazine held four, but I couldn't get the fourth depressed far enough to chamber a fifth.
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There's a screw under forehand so i guess is the tie down screw you are talking about? I didnt took the rifle off stock yet. First time i see express sight like thoses,they are for quick target acquisition right? At what distance they are zeroed for? 50yds?
 
9.3 mauser, I understand these Mauser action related final round failures to accept it's full capacity, the often culprit is the position of the magazine spring where it attached to the follower.
My best guess these two parts are staked together and recoil forces have lossened this joining position, hence allowing feed issues.
Sir you are not the first person to observe this problem and I think you are certainly not the last. Otherwise there's not much to complain about with a good Mauser rifle.

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Brutus said:
9.3 mauser, I understand these Mauser action related final round failures to accept it's full capacity, the often culprit is the position of the magazine spring where it attached to the follower.
My best guess these two parts are staked together and recoil forces have lossened this joining position, hence allowing feed issues.
Sir you are not the first person to observe this problem and I think you are certainly not the last. Otherwise there's not much to complain about with a good Mauser rifle.

maybe
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Actually, the magazine will hold 4 rounds,plus 1 in chamber,i just tried with dummy ammo. Since its a controlled feed action, the first round must be loaded in the mag then push the bolt to chamber it. Then turn rifle upside down,open floor plate and dump the 4 remaining rounds in the mag but they must be stagged in the correct order to be able to close the floor plate.
 
svt1940 said:
Actually, the magazine will hold 4 rounds,plus 1 in chamber,i just tried with dummy ammo. Since its a controlled feed action, the first round must be loaded in the mag then push the bolt to chamber it. Then turn rifle upside down,open floor plate and dump the 4 remaining rounds in the mag but they must be stagged in the correct order to be able to close the floor plate.
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Well that makes sense. Those h&h magnum casings take up more room in the same space as five 8x57.
 
svt1940 said:
There's a screw under forehand so i guess is the tie down screw you are talking about? I didnt took the rifle off stock yet. First time i see express sight like thoses,they are for quick target acquisition right? At what distance they are zeroed for? 50yds?
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I shot mine at 50 yds. I wasn't worried about group size, just a correct zero, and I only used the express sights. I painted a little white line up the centre of the backsight to make fast acquisition a little easier. That screw is the tie-down.

svt1940 said:
Actually, the magazine will hold 4 rounds,plus 1 in chamber,i just tried with dummy ammo. Since its a controlled feed action, the first round must be loaded in the mag then push the bolt to chamber it. Then turn rifle upside down,open floor plate and dump the 4 remaining rounds in the mag but they must be stagged in the correct order to be able to close the floor plate.
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The extractor should be set up to allow single load direct into the chamber, though that's not the preferred way with a Mauser.
 
svt1940 said:
Actually, the magazine will hold 4 rounds,plus 1 in chamber,i just tried with dummy ammo. Since its a controlled feed action, the first round must be loaded in the mag then push the bolt to chamber it. Then turn rifle upside down,open floor plate and dump the 4 remaining rounds in the mag but they must be stagged in the correct order to be able to close the floor plate.
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Put the 4 in the magazine. place a single round under the extractor on the bolt, press the four down while sliding the single round into the chamber. Easier than fiddling with the floorplate. Or just modify the extractor, which makes it easier yet. - dan
 
dan belisle said:
Put the 4 in the magazine. place a single round under the extractor on the bolt, press the four down while sliding the single round into the chamber. Easier than fiddling with the floorplate. Or just modify the extractor, which makes it easier yet. - dan
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Good hint thanks! Still thoses big rounds dont allow much place to put one under the extractor. What kind of mod the extractor need for single feed off magazine?
 
svt1940 said:
Good hint thanks! Still thoses big rounds dont allow much place to put one under the extractor. What kind of mod the extractor need for single feed off magazine?
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What kind of mod? - usually, an amount is ground off the front leading edge of the standard extractor - makes like a slope or ramp so the extractor nose's edge can slide over the case rim and snap back into place to grip and extract that case. Works well. Easy to screw up by grinding just a bit too much. Also good to check that your receiver has enough room to the side - so that the extractor has room to go to the right when it goes over that rim. Is claimed by some to result in a weaker lip to the extractor - is thinner at the leading edge, for sure - if carried away, perhaps change the heat treat characteristics and make it more brittle - I don't think that you want that. When "single loading", you have lost the "controlled round feeding" for that round - so is possible to drop a shell into the chamber, partially close the bolt, pull back the bolt and get hold of second round, and forward motion will try to push second round into chamber that is full with the first round. Full "controlled round feeding" does not ever allow that to happen.

"Put one under the extractor" - that is usually done by filling the magazine full, then remove bolt from rifle - snap a round into the bolt face - then reinsert that bolt - will take some fussing to depress the rounds in the magazine, with a round on the bolt face - else the closing bolt will jam up, trying to bring a second round up from magazine. Is not meant for "topping up", I don't think - for initial loading, to get a round in the chamber and full mag. I suspect if a full mag is important, that idea to chamber one, then flip over and fill mag from bottom, through hinged floor plate, is easiest for most - is exactly the way Schultz and Larson factory instructions say to load their rifles. An S&L follower is "ambidextorous" though, so does not matter left or right first - a Mauser follower is not - have to get the left and right correct sequence to get a full mag.
 
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svt1940 said:
Good hint thanks! Still thoses big rounds dont allow much place to put one under the extractor. What kind of mod the extractor need for single feed off magazine?
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The extractor on mine was already set up for that from the factory. However, with 4 rounds in the magazine, I simply could not depress the top round far enough to close the bolt. Your rifle may behave differently.
 
Not real sure about the four rounds thing - I am quite sure my Zastava Mauser and the belted Win Model 70's all rated for 3 in the mag, to be able to depress far enough to get fourth into chamber??

I am actually in a struggle with my Husqvarna FN98 in 9.3x62 - should take 5 in mag, I think, but can not get that many in there - something is not correct!!!
 
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