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I'm looking for opinions on a new production Peacemaker. I have heard a bit about the Rugers not having that same audible 'click', but I haven't been able to compare. I know there is the Pietta and Uberti models but I have no clue if they are decent quality. I'm not sure if Colt still makes these, and I'm guessing if they did the price would be upwards of 1k, but if that's what it costs to get into something I won't regret then I'll start saving haha

I'd like to get in .38/357 because I'm still set up to load for that calibre. Is it possible to get new production models in .22lr as well?
 
If I recall correctly, Beretta bought out Ubreti. If they have any influence on the Ubreti line is beyond me. If you're a traditionalist, you'd probably want to stick to Ubretti or Pietta. Chiappa is also a SAA revolver manufacturer but I'm not familiar with their quality other than the .22LR model having issues.

Ubreti makes a .22 series called Stallion. Ruger has a bunch of .22LR/.22MAG SAA revolvers.

If you want traditional internal design and feel, I think that rules Ruger out. The Ruger have a bit more modern safety features implemented into their design like a transfer bar safety etc but the external look is pretty traditional with the exception of no firing pin on the hammer. I haven't demo'ed a Ruger Vaquero as yet but I've read that there is no half-#### loading/safety like traditional SAA. You can rotate the cylinder and load the revolver just by opening the gate. Kinda makes me want an Ubreti over the Ruger for the more traditional feel but the price is nice on the Vaquero. :p

Colt does make SAA revolvers but I believe they're about $1400+.

 
You asked for opinions. My opinion is the Ruger single action is better quality than the famous 1873 Colt ever was.
 
I agree, Rugers are phenomenal. Strong as a tank and accurate. You will love one if you get a Ruger. However I just sold a Ruger and kept my Uberti....strictly personal preference, like Trinimon suggests I liked the lines on my Cattleman better than the Ruger. Nothing to do with accuracy or other practical considerations. Despite the brass frame it strikes me as more traditional...shooting blackpowder cartridges out of the Cattleman just seems to feel more "right" to me. That said, the punishment my little finger takes with heavy loads makes me reconsider that from time to time.

As stated above, the new Ubertis are made by Beretta. Should you choose that route, however, you WILL want to loctite (blue that is) all the screws. I sent a few screws flying from mine before I decided that is a necessity. They otherwise seem to be well made and getting parts is easy (like springs, most parts interchange with the Colts).

Only my 0.02, happy shootin' whatever you choose
 
i have a Uberti 1873 in .45 Colt and really like shooting it, I re-load a fairly mild round and it is shooting to point of aim. If you are going to shoot a lot of .357 Magnum I would consider the Ruger but for .38 Special the Uberti's and Piettas are strong enough,you may need to change some springs every now and then but it is not hard to do.

Here are some of my "Colt's" from left to right:

1847 Walker .44 cal. cap and ball (ASM reproduction)
1873 SAA .45 Colt (Uberti reproduction)
1911 .45ACP original (made 1917)

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If you want a "Peacemaker" you gotta go bigger than .38! I've never tried a real Colt's SAA, but my Ruger New Vaquero .45 puts a smile on the face of anyone that's ever fired it.

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The guys that told you that the Ruger is not the old style Colt action are correct. It looks like one on the outside but the insides use a modern style action with a transfer bar and an action disconnect linked to the loading gate. So you don't need to go to half #### to load, just open the gate. The are also right in saying that the Rugers are reliable and excellent guns.

If you're after the real authentic "4 clicks" Colt action then you're looking at one of the Italian clones or a proper Colt. And as mentioned an honest to gosh Colt is way up there in price. So for plinking that leaves the Italians.

I've got a couple of Uberti cap and ball guns and a couple of Pietta cartridge guns. Both are excellently made and have not skipped a beat since I got them 3 years back. The Pietta guns have not needed any tweaks as the trigger "wore in" to a very nice 6'ish lb break that is smooth with only a little creep all by itself. And that's about perfect for casual plinking.

I actually found the first Pietta used off the EE and bought it at a price which would allow me to resell it if I didn't like it for very little or no loss. What I found was all so positive that I had no issues at all with ordering a companion for my CAS events from Marstar and have been a very happy Pietta owner since.

On the other hand I've looked over and shot a buddy's Chapparal. While cheaper than Pietta or Uberti it really shows in both the finish and overall fit of the parts and in the poor trigger feel. So all in all I'd say that it's worth the extra for either Pietta or Uberti if you want a proper Colt clone with the old time authentic 4 click action.

Note that any of these in .357 come with an overheight front sight. You'll need to settle on a load you like shooting from it and then file down and re-shape the front sight to suit that load. As it comes the guns shoot horribly low because they are set up with sights suitable for full power .45Colt rounds. We .38Spl shooters need to live with that and file the sights down to suit our ammo.
 
The STI Texican received gushy reviews in the American firearms magazines (for whatever that's worth) when it appeared a few years ago ... super-high quality fit-and-finish, but pricey. I think that site sponsor Freedom Ventures carries them, or at least used to carry them.

I do know that 1911's from STI are highly regarded by 1911 enthusiasts.

Edit - I just did a Google search. The STI Texican no longer exists.
 
Ok so I guess I'm looking at an Italian, I'm guessing they are Uberti, Pedersoli, Chiappa, Pietta?

What's with Italian companies reproducing american guns anyway?

I'll start pricing them out and probably pick something up in January. I saw once that you could get one of those Italian guns for like $350.00 new, so if I find one again I'll check to see if there's a reason it's so cheap.
 
I suspect that these are the old $350 guns you remember. But the dollar to lire or dollar to Euro rate has brought up the price somewhat.

If you don't mind the dull look I see that Marstar has the Millenium model at $399. And that is the same price as Cabela's US is selling it for. But for my bucks I simply do not like the dull matt finish. So for me the extra to get the colour case receiver and shiney blued cylinder and barrel is worth the cost. A guy has to be willing to dish out the cash for some BLING! now and then.... :D

I also see that Epps has a pretty good selection of Uberti 1873's for competitive priceing. I'm not sure of the exact models for each lineup as to colour case hardening and barrel finishing. You'll need to check that part out.

I also see that they've got the Remington 1875 for a pretty agreeable price. A gun which really tickles my own fancy.... :D
 
BCRider said:
I suspect that these are the old $350 guns you remember. But the dollar to lire or dollar to Euro rate has brought up the price somewhat.

If you don't mind the dull look I see that Marstar has the Millenium model at $399. And that is the same price as Cabela's US is selling it for. But for my bucks I simply do not like the dull matt finish. So for me the extra to get the colour case receiver and shiney blued cylinder and barrel is worth the cost. A guy has to be willing to dish out the cash for some BLING! now and then.... :D

I also see that Epps has a pretty good selection of Uberti 1873's for competitive priceing. I'm not sure of the exact models for each lineup as to colour case hardening and barrel finishing. You'll need to check that part out.

I also see that they've got the Remington 1875 for a pretty agreeable price. A gun which really tickles my own fancy.... :D
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I wish Epps had pics to go with their listings but their prices are attractive. About $100 cheaper than a Vaquero.
 
If I were buying a gun from Epps where I wanted it to be a specific finish I'd be calling them and ordering over the phone so the folks there could describe the sort of finish on the gun.

Uberti makes fine stuff but their model names don't really fully describe each variation all that well. So seeing or at least hearing a proper description is pretty much imperative.
 
I have the Pietta 1873 4.75" in .357/.38. Really a nice piece...accurate, solid in the hand. I bought from Marstar...but it seems CanAm actually has better pricing on this model. Only recommendation is not to use the CCI Blazer aluminum case cheapy ammo. For me, the case wants to stick in the cylinders after firing...not cool. Other than that...excellent.
 
Rocket Surgery said:
Is it possible to get new production models in .22lr as well?
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Here are three (in 22LR and .22Mag combos) that I have. They have the look but maybe not the innards.

The least pricey (and a favorite which needs half-#### for opening the gate) is the Heritage Rough Rider
with two cylinders. Its cylinder movement and clicking to the "next" chamber is much more precice than the Rugers'.
With Rugers when ejecting, you can rotate the cylinder just a touch too fat and have to go round again to get
that casing.

My other two are Ruger single-six 6.5" (also comes with a 22Mag cylinder) but no half-####. It's all in the loading fate.
My favorite is the newest, Single-10 5.5" in stainless steel and wood gunfighter grips. Very accurate
 
Brordo said:
I have the Pietta 1873 4.75" in .357/.38. Really a nice piece...accurate, solid in the hand. I bought from Marstar...but it seems CanAm actually has better pricing on this model. Only recommendation is not to use the CCI Blazer aluminum case cheapy ammo. For me, the case wants to stick in the cylinders after firing...not cool. Other than that...excellent.
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Thanks for the heads up on CanAm! Holy! They're almost $100. cheaper compared to the competition. I'd prefer it in blue, SS or case hardened but that price is attractive. :)
 
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