Pedersoli 86/71 and HSM Bear Load

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Hi, i wanted to ask if anyone has experience with HSM bear load in Pedersoli 86/71's. I have a boarbuster and see talk that more modern levers like the marlin 1885 should handle hsm without issue. Assuming the 1886 is a stronger action it should handle the HSM ammo fine?
 
My own opinion so take it as you will... I own both a 95 Marlin & an 86 of the Jap variety and I would never "assume" the 86 is stronger than a 95, another assumption you make is that the Pedersoli 86 is equal in strength to both the Marlin & Jap.... this is where we part company on assumptions...Bearbuster rounds have a reputation for being very hot & I wouldnt handhold either of my LEVER guns with them until I had test fired a box thru them tied to a tree or tire.
Now for the bad news for you, I have owned Pedersoli rifles in the past, very fine rifles within their intended purpose but I have worked on dozen of Italian built guns & quite frankly I wouldnt trust any of them to equate a North American built outfit with bearbusters. Now, to be clear I havent seen an Italian rifle blow up ( several pistols tho from the same companies) but i have seen several with streched frames and broken parts from rounds with higher than ordinary "Cowboy" classed rounds
just my opinion so you "do you" and Ill stick to me myself & I.
 
It's a 2023 model if that matters. When you are talking about stretched receivers was that with Saami spec ammo such as leverevolution? Or hotter stuff above Saami.
 
within Saami as far as I know, they were other folks guns & handloads so ???. Two of the rifles were stretched so bad that the bolt wouldnt fully chamber a round into battery and if you manually fully seated a round in the chamber, the firing pin would not even touch the primer...extreme cases I know but still relevant.
 
The HSM +P ammo is fine in the Pedersoli 86/71 models. This ammo runs at 40-42,000 psi and is about as far as I'd wanna push it to save me
shoulder at the bench. I ran a few of 'em from my 86'71 yrs back and they shot tight at 80 yds.
 
Don’t think you can lump current Pedersolis in with the “Italian” guns. As I’ve said before I’ve had Marlins and Mirukos, current ‘86 is a Pedersoli.
 
Pedersoli gives the same answer Ruger/marlin says "Sammi only or no warranty" but from my research it seems Sammi was set to take into account the weak trapdoor actions, not 1895/1886/high wall
 
In fact on the Marlin manual it says dont use +P but by the reloading manuals there are three tiers , trapdoor (Sammi spec), modern lever (1895) and ruger #1. I think this is similar to how 8mm mauser is underloaded in the US because people shoved it in pre 98 mauser and euro 8mm mauser is the proper post 98 load.
 
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