Peep sights vs Scope Vs Red Dot

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Hi,

Just bought a Savage Axis in .308 for deer & moose hunting, it came like the usual Axis with a scope, I don't like the idea of not having back up iron sights, specially for deer hunting.

I've just had a weaver rail on it (7"), I am thinking about peep sights or red dot, any experience with it ? Pros & Cons ? Suggestions/recommandations?

Someone had a bad experience with only having the scope for big games hunting ?
 
Don't drop your rifle and stop buying Bushnell ,you will be all right.
I kind of like red dots for fun guns but cold batteries = dead batteries.
 
a peep is good for 200 yards plus- look at the enfield 4s- at 200 yards, it has been my experience that the dot covers the WHOLE target AT 200- legs, torso, maybe the head as well- I have a singlepoint( which doesn't use batteries btw) and it's mounted on my uzi- that's the only thing I have that would make use of it
 
how did this turn into a Bushnell haters thread?- in my experience they make a good medium priced scope
 
t-star said:
how did this turn into a Bushnell haters thread?- in my experience they make a good medium priced scope
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The thing with the Axis is that the scope is really a basic one that come with it, we cannot expect more for a rifle at $300.
 
I think a set of front amd rear iron would cost more than am axis. I would just buy another gun as back up if yoi are worried.
 
and I have over a dozen that I haven't replaced- going back to the scopechief/ banner line- and those that did were replaced under Bushnell's lifetime warranty- you may have to be patient, but it doesn't get much better than that
 
t-star said:
and I have over a dozen that I haven't replaced- going back to the scopechief/ banner line- and those that did were replaced under Bushnell's lifetime warranty- you may have to be patient, but it doesn't get much better than that
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Yes..... Yes it does.... For some of us, a pooched scope can end a hunt.... Some of my hunts involve a park and hike in and span 3-4 days.... Having a POS scope that lets me down when I need it most is not an option for me.... Some people only own one rifle for each of their game choices and having to shelve it because you are waiting on a warranty replacement on a scope can m an the me to an already short season.....
 
Peep sights are my favourite sighting system.

I like the fiber optic front blades for hunting, but they are not the best for target shooting. I have yet to discover the right target shooting front blade

A POS scope failed me this year, but peep sights did not.
 
conor_90 said:
Peep sights are my favourite sighting system. ..I have yet to discover the right target shooting front blade...
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Have you tried an XS blade with the white stripe? I find these to be pretty good. I've just had an old Martini Cadet rebored from .310 to .357 Mag. and am thinking of putting one of these on the front. (I have a couple of Skinner blades which I'll put a v. thin strip of Scotchlite reflective tape on.) I may put an old Lyman target peep on the back although it kind of gets in the way of the brass, which ejects straight back.

I like green F.O. front sights, too, but wish that I could get one with a flat top like the one Ruger uses on the SP101 revolver. An option for a smaller dia. F.O. rod would be nice, too. Guess I'd better get a miling machine and some tooling...
 
Peeps are great. Gotta have good eyes tho

I have Aimpoints that I use, but only on semi's. Actually, my kids Rascals has a red dot on it and is good too. Never had a battery fail, but it sucks relying on batteries.

Hard to beat a tough scope on a bolt action hunting rifle if your eyes aren't into peeps
 
tazik said:
I don't like the idea of not having back up iron sights, specially for deer hunting.
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Option 1 ...... Buy a better scope and you won't need backup sights. Leupold is a good start.
Option 2 ...... If you must have a back-up, buy two scopes and use QD rings. When the 1st cheap scope breaks, install the second (pre-sighted) cheap scope and carry on.

:)
 
SuperCub said:
Option 1 ...... Buy a better scope and you won't need backup sights. Leupold is a good start.
Option 2 ...... If you must have a back-up, buy two scopes and use QD rings. When the 1st cheap scope breaks, install the second (pre-sighted) cheap scope and carry on.

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Yeah it could be an option, but by not having a backup is not only if the scope let me down, some time the scope is not useful, specially for deer hunting in the bush or in fast action..
 
The Axis comes with a bottom of the line Bushnell which is not surprising at the price they sell for. Replace it with a good variable scope with 1.5x or 2x on the bottom end if you are worried about real close shooting. Peep sights are great, I own a few woods rifles with peeps installed and in my opinion NOTHING is faster then a good peep sight with a large or no aperture screwed in the sight at all. The problem with mounting one on the Axis or most other new production bolt guns is that the rifles are stocked for use with a scope and the stocks have very little drop making the use of low iron sights difficult. To me the red dot sight is a poor choice as the dot size is very large for close shooting but useless for a longer range shot as has been noted already. My 2 cents.
 
I have used aim point style scopes with success however I have decided to put a Williams peep on my 7600 carbine. I'm trying to get away from the whole battery thing. Any advice from those that use the peep, tops or tricks on getting used to the new sight?
 
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