Peep sights vs Scope Vs Red Dot

I built a peep sight from a scope base and a fiber optic front sight for my 9.3x57.
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Try a Williams peep receiver sight for the savage round receiver. Should be bolt on ready. However, you may encounter an issue with front sight height so do some research before you dive in. The gentlemen at the company direct line when you order are very helpful in setting you up with the correct gear. Will need a smith to plant the front sight on the barrel for you. My experiences and 2c.
 
For my needs here on VI I'm more then happy with a red dot.
Or my 1x4 Leo'.

If I had to hunt in a colder less battery friendly climate I'd probably switch to a fiber optic peep sight set-up.
 
A peep sight will do everything a scope of a red dot will do. I have shot peep prone on bipod to 500 at MOA and I am not the great shot.

Except have the aiming point and target in simultaneous focus, which is the primary advantage of an optic over iron sights. The advantage the peep sight has over an open sight is that you only have to shift your focus between the front sight and target, whereas with an open sight, you have to shift your focus between the front and rear sights and the target. A flat top post front sight with the peep sight provides a precise index of elevation which just isn't there with a bead or a fiber optic.

Some folks don't like the look of red dot sights on hunting rifles; Pounder has a reflex sight on his 95 Marlin, where function trumps style. The nice thing about a reflex sight is that there are no batteries to contend with.
 
I have used aim point style scopes with success however I have decided to put a Williams peep on my 7600 carbine. I'm trying to get away from the whole battery thing. Any advice from those that use the peep, tops or tricks on getting used to the new sight?

If you are hunting in the woods you may want to remove the screw in aperture leaving a BIG hole to look through, much better in low light. I usually make my aiming point the top of the bead when sighting in, seems more precise at longer ranges.
 
If you are hunting in the woods you may want to remove the screw in aperture leaving a BIG hole to look through, much better in low light. I usually make my aiming point the top of the bead when sighting in, seems more precise at longer ranges.

Great advice thanks. I will defiantly do this
 
Hi,

Just bought a Savage Axis in .308 for deer & moose hunting, it came like the usual Axis with a scope, I don't like the idea of not having back up iron sights, specially for deer hunting.

I've just had a weaver rail on it (7"), I am thinking about peep sights or red dot, any experience with it ? Pros & Cons ? Suggestions/recommandations?

Someone had a bad experience with only having the scope for big games hunting ?

Why did you buy it knowing it does't have any irons sights if your concerned about not having iron sights???
 
Why did you buy it knowing it does't have any irons sights if your concerned about not having iron sights???

I wanted a .308 and the price was good, many of new rifles do not have iron sights anyway and I am looking for something different than basic iron sights, so even with one having it I would have asked the same question.

I like the above set up of rombat's pics.

Tazz
 
I use an Aimpoint Micro T1 with a 2MOA dot on the carry rifle I use to hunt. It is the primary sight for the rifle, not a back-up. Fast acquisition, easy to pick up in bush clutter, reliable. Testing from a bench produced repeatable 5 shot groups averaging 1.25" @ 100M and 6" @ 300M.
 
I use a Williams peep on my Savage 99 in .300, and a vintage Marbles on my Savage 99 in .250-3000.
Can't beat either. Screw out the smaller aperture and use the large one for close range work.
A couple of range sessions to "get the feel" of them, and you are off and running!
 
Have you tried an XS blade with the white stripe?

No, but it seems a good one. I like boomers idea of a flat partridge style blade.

The fiber optics and white beads seem to increase group sizes, if that really matters hunting at common iron sight ranges. I bet the white bead would be a great hunting sight. Fiber-optic is just so good for low light especially with the Tikka sight's holes to allow light in. I can sacrifice an MOA for that. But I want to see what I'm really capable of.

I would like to be able to drop prone and take down an elk at 300 meters with my peep sights but I think it is attainable have a lot of practicing to do to achieve consistency. Inside 100 yards they are natural like shooting a shotgun, provided the fit of the rifle is good I assume.

Something about iron sights, I just love them even if they may handicap you. They force you to hunt hard and shoot well.
 
Yes..... Yes it does.... For some of us, a pooched scope can end a hunt.... Some of my hunts involve a park and hike in and span 3-4 days.... Having a POS scope that lets me down when I need it most is not an option for me.... Some people only own one rifle for each of their game choices and having to shelve it because you are waiting on a warranty replacement on a scope can m an the me to an already short season.....

it's a foolish man that doesn't have a spare rifle at least in camp -probably scoped - typically I carry 2- a savage 99 in 308 and a win 94 on my back jic- they've both got 3x9x32 bushnells on them that cost LESS THAN 100 - and seeing as you're in Ontario, it's a simple DRIVE over to Richmond hill in the off season ,and it's a over the counter replacement- maybe a week at the max- I have to wait 6 months or more as i'm on the prairies- so I wait for a SALE and get TWO - and if one breaks, the fund for a new one go into next years budget
and some of my hunts ( the typical ones) last a couple of weeks on the back of a horse-park your car at the meeting point, ck in with the fishcops, mount up, and you're GONE for at least 2 weeks- I do the east slopes of the rockies from sundre to the border and as far west as the bc border- have since 72 so I know what i'm talking about
 
No, I don't smoke, the previous owner did, and yes, those are my socks.:p

Stock has taken a lot of crap over the years, time I did some cleaning up.

Anyway, the usual tid bit is, that you can't get a good cheek weld with a high mounted scope. Well, out to a couple of hundred yards, you will easily attain decent accuracy for big game purposes with it.

As to it being less rigid, maybe, but this one hasn't moved.

I've never had the Leupold fail on me, but, I have had it full of snow, or spotted up with rain, or condensation. The peeps are awesome for those occasions.
 
it's a foolish man that doesn't have a spare rifle at least in camp -probably scoped -

Or a poor one... for a long time when I was younger I couldn't afford a second rifle. I put a cheap variable on it, and got away with it for a season or two, but eventually it fogged in the middle of the deer hunt. There were no irons on that particular rifle, so I muddled through for the rest of the week, but basically my hunt was done.
 
it's a foolish man that doesn't have a spare rifle at least in camp -probably scoped - typically I carry 2- a savage 99 in 308 and a win 94 on my back jic- they've both got 3x9x32 bushnells on them that cost LESS THAN 100 - and seeing as you're in Ontario, it's a simple DRIVE over to Richmond hill in the off season ,and it's a over the counter replacement- maybe a week at the max- I have to wait 6 months or more as i'm on the prairies- so I wait for a SALE and get TWO - and if one breaks, the fund for a new one go into next years budget
and some of my hunts ( the typical ones) last a couple of weeks on the back of a horse-park your car at the meeting point, ck in with the fishcops, mount up, and you're GONE for at least 2 weeks- I do the east slopes of the rockies from sundre to the border and as far west as the bc border- have since 72 so I know what i'm talking about

Not all of Ontario is within an hours drive of Richmond hill..... You should check out a map sometime..... A lot of Ontario is not Toronto.. And I don't buy cheap scopes.... Also, I don't spend thousands of dollars on gear expecting it to sit idle in a safe During prime time.... That would be foolish....

Some of my hunts have involved days of hiking and spot and stalk and walking for miles for hours on end with a pack and pump tent.... And we are not talking the outskirts of Toronto here..... I don't have a horse to do the work for me, nor do I have the luxury of a camp on some of these hunts..... Carrying a second rifle is not an option.....

But then again, guess this all makes me "foolish" and I must be wrong as you "know what you are talking about".....
 
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