Pemberton hunters.... the deer need your help!!! calling all predator hunters

I don't see what the big deal is here. I know a few guys, myself included, that had wolves run at them, right past them or come from behind them. It happens all the time in wolf country, especially when you are hunting/calling/wearing urine all over your body/camouflaged sitting by a decoy/have your dog with you......I have shot wolves right off my dog before at work in the middle of a lease in the middle of the day. They can be horribly aggressive, to anything that moves. Anyways have fun with your wolf problem, and welcome to the club.

Agreed. I read it as "Wolves headed for noises / movement, thinking they were on deer." If it really happened as described, the Wolves were more surprised than you guys. We see wolves daily at work, and have had plenty go by close, but it is newsy in Pemberton. Wolves are extremely curious, they're also not quite as smart as is often assumed. They get confused, see pic below, they have a pretty tiny brain compared to even a dopey bear, and not really much bigger than the brain of a Lynx. (Bear, Wolf, Lynx) Careful, the biggest risk you guys faced were your own stray bullets in a situation like that. Too bad there weren't some cell pics pics of the blood, fur, bone, even a sample of fur or bone- CO's appreciate that stuff and it's useful to them. Would have been nice to go for the carcasses, they're lightly built animals and don't go far.

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No expert; heck prairie boy born and raised.
But I was on my way to work on a rig in Grande Cache when a WT doe ran across the highway in front of me. Pursued by two big, long legged wolves!
They don't seem so formidable in pic's; real life they are very impressive and can MOVE!
I agree with the OP's thought that the pack probably didn't recognize him for the Camo. But anyone else can be a critic from an armchair...
Good shooting and I'm glad you are OK
 
Just letting everyone know, there is also a pack in the Elaho valley headed toward Squamish valley. I've seen many tracks in the fresh snow. BE CAREFUL!!!
 
I don't see what the big deal is here. I know a few guys, myself included, that had wolves run at them, right past them or come from behind them. It happens all the time in wolf country, especially when you are hunting/calling/wearing urine all over your body/camouflaged sitting by a decoy/have your dog with you......I have shot wolves right off my dog before at work in the middle of a lease in the middle of the day. They can be horribly aggressive, to anything that moves. Anyways have fun with your wolf problem, and welcome to the club.

Yes. Much is being made of what I think is a "mistake" by the wolves. I doubt anyone was in any "danger" other than from flying bullets. Wolf encounters are always fascinating, but we have way too many "big bad wolf" stories in our heads. They are dogs who think they are kings of their territories and will investigate anything they think may interest them.
 
think they are kings of their territories
Thats a fact!.
There was the night, me all alone, snowshoe/sledded the first load into camp. He cut my trail with 1 km to go and dogged my tracks all the way to camp. I could feel him.
Lupus, he set to howling, snarling and growling, gave me right hell so he did, & not 15 yards from the sturdy:)rolleyes:) 6 mil plastic wall. His tracks were clear in the deep snow. That canine Scared the liv'n shyte outta this greenhorn central ontario boy!.
The helluvit was ... had three rifles to hand .... a 375h&h amongst 'em fer cry'n out loud .... not one single cartridge. They were all back at the road in the second load pack.

Things eventually quieted down, I screwed up me courage and 'shoed over his tracks back out to the road ... before the whole weeks worth of beer was frozen solid.
Never did lay eyes on him.
Never, ever, will forget the feel of his eyes on me in the dark.

Been hearing that pack regular in the decades since, yet to see.
 
There was the night, me all alone, snowshoe/sledded the first load into camp. He cut my trail with 1 km to go and dogged my tracks all the way to camp. I could feel him.
Lupus, he set to howling, snarling and growling, gave me right hell so he did, & not 15 yards from the sturdy() 6 mil plastic wall. His tracks were clear in the deep snow. That canine Scared the liv'n shyte outta this greenhorn central ontario boy!.
The helluvit was ... had three rifles to hand .... a 375h&h amongst 'em fer cry'n out loud .... not one single cartridge. They were all back at the road in the second load pack.

Things eventually quieted down, I screwed up me courage and 'shoed over his tracks back out to the road ... before the whole weeks worth of beer was frozen solid.
Never did lay eyes on him.
Never, ever, will forget the feel of his eyes on me in the dark.

Been hearing that pack regular in the decades since, yet to see.

I read that in Quint's voice from Jaws.
 
He he!, LoL.
Jaws?, Can't hardly remember that far back. Was that the flick where hero (Quint?) fragged the sushi with scuba tank/Garand?.

Back on topic.
It would be something else altogether to have a pack of wolves incoming, holding malicious eye contact ... no thanks.
 
Pretty funny. I'm sitting here in a truck waiting for the last hour or so. I'm reading this thread on my Itelephone, look up and there is a white wolf cruising by not 20 feet from me.

And no, I had no rifle!
 
We've got a big pack (17 up to 21 at times) out at the cottage, ~8 kms. due West of the ON. border in MB.'s Shield country. They've decimated the area's deer population & are now turning to anything/everything they can find to eat. We've had 3 now come into the yard in broad daylight (mind you it isn't like a city yard, the 2 acres is mostly bush, trees & rock), eating the bread we put out for the birds & the last 2 times they tried to get my Lab to chase him back into the bush (after which it would probably be "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner"). They haven't crossed the Deadline in the yard, yet, but when they do, that's it. We usually find deer femur bones & scraps of hair in the yard come spring when the snow melts. None of the ones who have come into the yard have been pack rejects either, they're big boys in prime condition, unlike the old ones who hang out near the beaver dams or near MB. Conservation's camps where the idiots feed them table scraps.

Not too far away (~3 klicks as the crow flies) I've come across and wandered through what was presumably their used winter den in my deer hunting territory on my way to my bear stand in the spring. A 3 cornered spruce copse, about 50 feet per side, well-protected with a bit of a hill behind it a ways, and access to a creek that's open year-round & cedar bog on the other 2 sides, 1 corner piled with bones & hair, another piled high with dung & the third corner had hair & the weight of the snow had matted down the grass; I presume their sleeping area. Very similar to one of the final scenes in that movie Grey I saw last year. You could still smell wet dog even though most of the snow was melted.

Last year while hunting along one of the cuts from the tornado we had back in '07, I had sightings of 5 different wolves on either side of the cut about 30 yards in, which is right at the edge of visibility in the black spruce where I hunt. They walked with me for about 2 klicks until I turned to head back to the truck. I put the scope on 2 of them at different times & they just sort of melted back into the bush; they didn't run. I caught sight of them again, usually after I was no longer looking in their direction, but unusually, I could hear them walking all of the time.

Anyways, after reading the OP's story, it reminded me of something an old family friend, a white Russian now long since gone to his reward, told us many years ago at the cottage, when we asked him why he always carried a rifle in the bush while his wife picked mushrooms, because it was too early for deer season. He said that he knew there were timber wolves in the area (at that time there were few sightings and only rarely did we hear them at night back then) and that we were sorely mistaken in Canada if we believed that wolves do not consider two-legged animals to be meat. He told us he had lost 2 cousins in Siberia to wolves back before the First World War. That's stayed with me for fifty-some-odd years & I do believe it. We're starting to hear more and more of these stories that cannot be attributed to anything else.

BTW, I didn't take any cell phone pics, partly because I don't own one anymore since I retired, because they don't work at the cottage & partly because if I'm out & about, I don't feel like talking on the phone. I don't have the need to immediately tell somebody what I'm doing or snap pictures of what I'm doing to record the event for posterity on my computer. But then again, I'm getting to be more & more of a cantankerous old ba$terd anyways.
 
What is a better caliber for wolf's?
223 or 308 or 7.62x39?
Sorry big time noob here :p

Methinks 7.62x39 would probably work just fine.
An SKS loaded with soft point ammo would do the job as long as one knows their rifle well. And the bayonet might be handy. ;)

Personally I have been around Wolves and Bears... And the big brown bears are the ones I worry about more.
 
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He told us he had lost 2 cousins in Siberia to wolves back before the First World War. That's stayed with me for fifty-some-odd years & I do believe it. We're starting to hear more and more of these stories that cannot be attributed to anything else.

I've wondered if some of the unexplained bush disappearances (eg. that geologist who disappeared in the Ontario bush (around Wawa) in the 80's) could have been wolves. After all if they eat a human, there would be little evidence left and it would be scattered far and wide.
 
I shoot (at) every wolf I see. Not because they frighten me, I just like shooting them, same with coyotes. Their population has increased rapidly in the past few years and needs to be kept in check. I also don't hold them to a higher standard like some hunters.
 
I shoot (at) every wolf I see. Not because they frighten me, I just like shooting them, same with coyotes. Their population has increased rapidly in the past few years and needs to be kept in check. I also don't hold them to a higher standard like some hunters.

What does "higher standard" mean? Or does that sentence mean you just like shooting everything you see that's alive?

There are lots of reasons to shoot coyotes or wolves, and there are lots of reasons to just leave them alone. I decide whether I shoot something, or not, based on a lot of things at the time, and I don't shoot (at) anything unless I really think I can hit it. No matter what it is.

Does that mean I put everything on a higher standard like some hunters?
 
What does "higher standard" mean? Or does that sentence mean you just like shooting everything you see that's alive?

There are lots of reasons to shoot coyotes or wolves, and there are lots of reasons to just leave them alone. I decide whether I shoot something, or not, based on a lot of things at the time, and I don't shoot (at) anything unless I really think I can hit it. No matter what it is.

Does that mean I put everything on a higher standard like some hunters?
I shoot to hit and kill, sometimes I miss, it happens. I haven't lost a wolf or coyote yet, but I tend to "overgun" by most people's standards.
Higher standard means that many put wolves on an undeserved pedestal. They see no issue with a "kill-em-all" attitude toward coyotes, but at the same time adopt a "save-the-wolf" belief. I don't consider them any more or less of a nuisance in certain situations than other varmints or predators. They can be detrimental to livestock and wildlife and need to be kept in check. The areas I hunt and work in house both wildlife and livestock, hence the reason I shoot every one I see.

It's common to get responses like yours when the term "wolf" comes up, which proves my point. :)
 
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