- Location
- East ontario
Simply put its a must
People's thoughts about a light on a bear defence shotgun
- Thread starter delboybc
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You could put up a sign to warn us other campers. Something to the effect of:
"WARNING - THIS SITE PROTECTED BY TACTICAL SHOTGUN WITH MOUNTED LIGHT: IF YOU SEE A BRIGHT LIGHT POINTED AT YOU WHEN YOU GET UP TO PEE,DROP TO THE GROUND AND SHOUT 'I AM NOT A BEAR''"
"WARNING - THIS SITE PROTECTED BY TACTICAL SHOTGUN WITH MOUNTED LIGHT: IF YOU SEE A BRIGHT LIGHT POINTED AT YOU WHEN YOU GET UP TO PEE,DROP TO THE GROUND AND SHOUT 'I AM NOT A BEAR''"
How can a light be a bad addition to your bear gun. Batteries fail so having a second light source can't be a bad addition. Also in an emergency just grabbing the shotgun is just a hair quicker than putting on the headlight and then getting your gun. I've got one on my shotgun and I like having it and not needing it rather than needing it and not having it.
How did it cross your mind that someone who wishes to put a light on a bear defence shotgun would be concerned about the light possibly bothering the bear? I'm thinking the 1 oz chunk of lead traveling at 1600fps will bother him a great deal more...
If you use batteries that fail you need to stop buying garbage batteries.
A bear attack is not "an emergency", it's a friggin bear attack. It's instantaneous. You'll be dead long before that headlight can ever be put around your head if the attack happens when you're not wearing it, let alone activate it. Bears don't simply "wait for the two-legged dumbass to be ready" before attacking, they just RUN YOUR ASS OVER. Real bear attacks happen WAYYYY too quickly for those "comfortable scenarios". You most probably won't even have the time to rack one in the chamber if it isn't loaded to begin with.
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- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I don't follow that logic at all. If the handgun can be legally used defensively, it will probably be used in subdued light as opposed to absolute darkness. In subdued light the target is visible and the night sights make your pistol sights sharply visible, rather than a blurred lump on top of the slide. For those with wilderness ATCs, in heavy cover on a heavily overcast day, the night sights are easier to pick up.
Not always...I had a bear try to drag the trailer I was sleeping in, into the bush. Had moose quarters hanging in the back of it (converted into a cooler) but the door was left down because it was below freezing out.
Sure woke us up. Kept it closed up after that but he came back the next 3 nights in a row. Never felt the need to shoot him though as he promply left when I exited the trailer with a 12ga.
There is a gigantic liability gap between "visible" and "100% positively identifyable". There's a lot of people in prison and sorrow right now because they shot someone "visible" but not "100% positively identifyable" who they shouldn't have shot.
Well except for the fact that just because you cant see your sights does not mean you cant see the target.
Shawn
On of the"tricks" I learned from the old field guys was to tie a small white cloth to the end of your shotgun muzzle so it was easier to see in low light as the bear was raiding the kitchen tent in case you couldn't find your flashlight.
We used to hold our flashlights with our left hand and the pump forend at the same time. It was entertaining........
Thats why you have your shotgun slung and use a handheld light to look. So you're not point a firearm potentially at someone who doesnt need a firearm pointed at them.
You mean its possible to own and operate more than one flashlight? One for my head, one for my hand and one for my shotgun... that can't be.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
If a cop, or armed citizen for that matter, waits for a "range perfect" shot during a fight, he's going to die, his partner is going to die, and potentially the citizen, they were attempting to protect, is going to die. Gun fights are dynamic nasty affairs, but you do the best you can under the circumstances of the moment, even if that means shooting at a moving target or shooting when the lighting is less than optimum. That's much different than shooting when not being able to identify your target, and that is not what I'm suggesting. I believe your 100% statistic is unfounded, but I do believe serious mistakes have been made in combat situations, and that there are consequences attached to those mistakes.
Around camp i use a just right carbine with a light mounted on the quad rail. Its fast and bright. Never had to use it to shoot a bear but sure lit up a cow and calf moose about 7' from the trailer door. Never seen eyes so bright...well eccept the bear i almost hit with my atv at 45 mph
Its only a safety issue if you are too dumb to keep your finger off the trigger and shoot when you don't intend to. If you flash some one with your gun light stop aiming at them and keep your finger off the trigger!
I dont want to hijack this thread but I need help mounting a light on a DLASK 870 Shorty. I have a Surefire Scout light and trying to mount it on the right side rail of the DLASK tri-rail fore-end. What is happening is the Gear Sector mount will touch the 8.5 inch barrel due to barrel thickness near the middle of the stroke. Anyone have any ideas for a different offset mount?
