- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
I would love it if Marlin brought out a 336 in 25-35. Most folks nowadays don't realise how frickin' accurate this chambering can be in a good levergun out to 200+ yds. Good for deer as well as smaller stuff.
perfect or best wolf-coyote rig
- Thread starter medvedqc
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I would love it if Marlin brought out a 336 in 25-35. Most folks nowadays don't realise how frickin' accurate this chambering can be in a good levergun out to 200+ yds. Good for deer as well as smaller stuff.
freddyfour
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Brant County, Ontario
I would love it if Marlin brought out a 336 in 25-35. Most folks nowadays don't realise how frickin' accurate this chambering can be in a good levergun out to 200+ yds. Good for deer as well as smaller stuff.
Agreed, possibly a nice 336 with a 24" octagon barrel with a straight stock........Is Marlin taking custom orders?
I use a 2506. 75 gr Vmax at 3550 and 117 gr interlock at 3150. Same poi at 100 yards. I've taken coyote wolf deer and bear with it. Never need a second shot. Did take a mangy fox as well. If it had fur to begin with it didn't after. The interlocks leave a 1-1.5" exit hole the vmax often don't penetrate on wolves. Coyotes they can be gruesome
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
There's little question as to the effectiveness of a high velocity small bore on a 100 pound dog. But wolves are often shot while hunting something else, so if your normal carry gun is something like a .270, a .300 magnum, or a 9.3X62, just use what you normally carry. Phil, if you're looking for an excuse to buy a new rifle disregard this and find yourself a .243, a 25/06 or one of the Weatherby incarnations of either . . . if you're not standing in line for a Penguin.
Jack Robinson
CGN Regular
- Location
- Alberta / Mazatlan
240 Wby.
freddyfour
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Brant County, Ontario
How about a bullet selection on the larger calibers from .243-.260. What will make the smallest exit hole for pelt preservation? Obviously something like the V-Max would be a bad choice because their explosive properties. Would something like a TSX or TTSX be a between choice?
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
The surest way to prevent pelt damage is to use a solid, but if the wolf is designated a game animal in your neck of the woods, it probably isn't legal, depending on the wording of the legislation; a true mono-metal solid is not a FMJ. Should that not be a legal option, the handloader can make up some low velocity loads with jacketed or cast bullets. From time to time the suggestion of a heavy for caliber (for its lower velocity) controlled expansion bullet is suggested, as the answer to reduced expansion, and it might work, although it won't be as effective at reducing damage if velocity is not reduced below 2000 fps. I recall some years ago while bear hunting I shot a fox with a Remington factory 180 gr RN Corelokt from a .303 Lee Enfield. The American loading of this cartridge has never be described as hot, and MV was in the neighborhood of 2400 fps, and by the time it got to the fox it likely decayed to 2100. Now the 180 gr Corelokt was well respected as a bear and moose killer when loaded to much higher velocities in the .30/06, and one might well imagine that the rate of expansion at 2100 fps, on an animal as light as fox would be minimum. The shot was a running broadside, and I hit amidships between the shoulder and the hip, so no large bone was impacted. When I got to him, it looked like someone had thrown a football through him. As far as I'm concerned, if you use a bullet that expands then exits, the pelt damage will be significant.
Mike,
I think the circle is coming back to me ... wolf is a game animal during the fall with others around but in the winter I ll focus on it. so your questioning is right and I think that I have a rig waiting for that and im not sure why im waiting lol.
thanks for your answer.
Phil
Being an avid varmint hunter myself for the last number of years, my goto varmint rifle is the the 243. It is NOT fur friendly, quite the opposite at 100 to 300 yards. Blows significant holes in coyotes and I got the pics to prove it. I posted some on this forum before - not for the faint of heart either. My 243 with 70 grain nosler's is a laser.
I note that you left out this part:
243 isn't legal for coyotes here in NL, but I know and have hunted elsewhere with folks who use it and have found workable projectiles/loads. There's no doubt that going to a smaller cartridge will be 'friendlier', but there's still a spectrum and few absolutes. The OP also mentioned wolves, so there's a choice to be made somewhere along the line.
6.5 shooter
CGN Regular
- Location
- Medicine Hat
Anything in 6.5. I like 140 gr. Bergers they fly well but don't open up to quick, 6.5 going in, quarter going out and dogs are DRT.
what is the intended method of hunting? If you are going to be shooting them on the run I suggest a semi, shooting them while they are just standing around you can use just about anything. If at long range I would use 338 Lapua or 50bmg as they take the wind better seeing as it would be open fields to get that kind of a shot and nobody is paying anything for hides in BC that I have found
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
YUP Pretty flat shooting rig there for yotes and wolves !RJ
Actually, if yer good at stalking out the yote den, a 12 ga. and buckshot works good. The last den I cleared out
near Water Valley Alta. was accomplished with a 7mm. Brazilian Mauser with iron sights. The range was around 50 yds. Hunting in the forestry out there is sweet compared to the toolies in my neck of the woods.
