Perhaps too much negativity placed on guns using MIM parts?
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Great points guys. I suppose for most buying guns with MIM parts are fine (e.g. Sig p226, S&W e-series Engraved, GLOCKs...etc.) for range use.
I mean Glocks have been known for being reliable. Full of MIM parts.
Q: Is Dan Wesson the only company that isn't a custom shop to make 1911's wi/o MIM parts?
Also, I guess if you swap in key parts with quality after market parts from companies like Wilson Combat, EGW, Agency Arms, Taran Tactical (e.g. their John Wick $1500 package for Glocks)...having a few MIM parts would be okay.
Some one said even Wilson on their "entry-models' still has a few MIM parts? True?
I mean Glocks have been known for being reliable. Full of MIM parts.
Q: Is Dan Wesson the only company that isn't a custom shop to make 1911's wi/o MIM parts?
Also, I guess if you swap in key parts with quality after market parts from companies like Wilson Combat, EGW, Agency Arms, Taran Tactical (e.g. their John Wick $1500 package for Glocks)...having a few MIM parts would be okay.
Some one said even Wilson on their "entry-models' still has a few MIM parts? True?
Perhaps the difference is (MIM vs none) that there's just more chances for parts to fail in a gun made from MIM parts only. Percentage wise. Which isn't to say that you can't get reliable and long lasting "MIM guns". I mean if LEO departments count on stock Glocks, US military on the Sig P226 MK25 (SPEC OPS guys)...and I'm guessing they run their guns hard and harder than any of us (civilians recreational shooters) would...
Also...just because we spent $6000 on a Wilson or $4-5000 on a Les Bair...doesn't guarantee flawless guns--no MIM parts. Getting a Dan Wesson over a factory Col buys a little more peace of mind I suppose. Getting a 1911 with no MIM parts therefore a lot less likely for parts failure.
Also...just because we spent $6000 on a Wilson or $4-5000 on a Les Bair...doesn't guarantee flawless guns--no MIM parts. Getting a Dan Wesson over a factory Col buys a little more peace of mind I suppose. Getting a 1911 with no MIM parts therefore a lot less likely for parts failure.
Could that possibly have more to do with QC (quality control)? I'd think factory guns aren't put through the ringer as hard as a semi-custom (Dan Wesson) or a full-custom gun is. So the chances of parts failure would be less. Bad QC can possibly cause problems than the MIM parts themselves...
I"ve heard of guys with Les Baer 1911's who've gone through Hell trying to get issues taken care of. Would send guns in and get them back not fixed.
Problem remained because of the way they test fired the guns afterwards. So the owner had to send the guns back a 2nd time. Luckily they live in the US...we have to rely on local gunsmiths. Hoping they know their craft.
Have any of you had to ship a gun to and from the USA? Have you ordered a custom 1911 from a Wilson, Nighthawk....? How did that go?
I"ve heard of guys with Les Baer 1911's who've gone through Hell trying to get issues taken care of. Would send guns in and get them back not fixed.
Problem remained because of the way they test fired the guns afterwards. So the owner had to send the guns back a 2nd time. Luckily they live in the US...we have to rely on local gunsmiths. Hoping they know their craft. Have any of you had to ship a gun to and from the USA? Have you ordered a custom 1911 from a Wilson, Nighthawk....? How did that go?
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Not necessarily profits. Making guns isn't the money printing machine you might think. It is about keeping a price point and stabilizing whatever few $$ are left in the deal to keep the company alive. But, when an investment bank or hedge fund buys anything, they are guaranteed to have only their shareholders' interests at heart and screw the managers who have to keep the business running.
Why, do you think there are so many more Browning deer stickers and logos out there compared to Browning rifles and shotguns? Licencing a marketable asset. There is also far more money to be made selling ammunition than in guns. Did anyone else notice how quickly the firearms came off the Remington website when they went into creditor protection just recently? Like flipping a light switch.
Just like steel parts getting replaced by aluminum parts.
It's crap.
There, fixed it for 'ya !!
Q: Are Dan Wesson 1911's the only ones with no MIM parts thast isn't a custom gun?
Not that we should totally avoid "MIM guns" as they aren't all full of problems from the start. Some never have a hiccup. Others come from companies who let their QC slip. Even Colt and their first batch of 2020 Pythons. Cylinder lockup. You'd think they would be especially on that model to make sure they have a good rollout for a long awaited gun (to return to market).
Not that we should totally avoid "MIM guns" as they aren't all full of problems from the start. Some never have a hiccup. Others come from companies who let their QC slip. Even Colt and their first batch of 2020 Pythons. Cylinder lockup. You'd think they would be especially on that model to make sure they have a good rollout for a long awaited gun (to return to market).
Norinco???
Any idea about the parts used in a Sig p226? Full of MIM parts? Partially? The Legion and the MK25? Popular guns.
Not much in a Sig P series, hammer, take down lever, mag catch, lots of stampings for little parts.
They are not "optimal" for anything....I am another one of the many that had the MIM blade shear off of a SR-1911 front sight. It lasted for less than 25 rounds shot. I could have had it replaced under warranty, but stepped up and bought an optimal machined steel part.
Cheap and sometimes adequate would be my assessment.
Cheap and sometimes adequate would be my assessment.
No, as far as I know, most of them are not cheaper to produce. I'd apprechiate sources who explain your opinion.
And that would be your own personal preference. "You get your moneys worth", lol. Haven't you advocated on press fit barrels as well and find every excuse possible to defend your idol's TEC wares? Shill on buddy!
