Permanent but reversible way to convert an AR to "bolt-action"

Suputin said:
The simplest and quickest way to do what you are proposing is to remove the gas tube from the gas block. Then turn the gas block around and install it backwards. In this manner the gas port in the block and the barrel will not line up thus no high pressure gas will escape the barrel. Returning the gun to SA function is as easy as reinstalling the gas tube and mounting the gas block in the proper orientation.
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Sounds like a winner. Before I order my free float tube and some other goodies, I'll just verify with a proud Saiga 308 "manual action" owner if there are any issues. Would save me $27 in parts, plus some labor lol

Self-threadjack: Any issues with running a rifle or mid length free float tube over a low profile gas block assuming I don't plan on running irons? This is for a bit of 3gun fun while I can still have it, in Canada
 
Suspect without looking that Chile's laws might say no military style rifles at all. Might say no military cartridges too. So your buddy will be SOL anyway. Quite likely that AR's cannot be imported to Chile as well. Lot of laws to look into before worrying about taking out the gas piston and/or some how sealing the gas port in the barrel. Not welding it though. There be high pressures there.
 
sunray said:
Suspect without looking that Chile's laws might say no military style rifles at all. Might say no military cartridges too. So your buddy will be SOL anyway. Quite likely that AR's cannot be imported to Chile as well. Lot of laws to look into before worrying about taking out the gas piston and/or some how sealing the gas port in the barrel. Not welding it though. There be high pressures there.
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There are several people running converted to manual AR's and Saigas over there. Saiga shotguns can even be run in semi-automatic. The problem is, most of those guys are just the type to throw money at the problem so they don't have any idea what the gunsmiths did to convert their rifles to manual cycling.
 
I would assume that information about Chilean arms control law and regulations could be obtained from the Chilean embassy.
 
tiriaq said:
I would assume that information about Chilean arms control law and regulations could be obtained from the Chilean embassy.
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Well, I'm sure they could at least point me in the right direction. As for the mechanical side of the issue, I'm glad that CGN has lots of helpful folk, well familiar with the platform I'm inquiring about :)
 
Interesting that Chile with such a dark history would still prevent citizens from owning firearms that match their military... Hummmm, i guess nothing has changed since Pinochet over there.
 
mikethebike said:
Interesting that Chile with such a dark history would still prevent citizens from owning firearms that match their military... Hummmm, i guess nothing has changed since Pinochet over there.
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The original act came with Allende but Pinochet didn't strike it down while he was in power. Post-Pinochet administrations added a couple more twists. Examples of countries making their gun laws more reasonable are few and far between, while examples of countries making them more unreasonable are all over the place. Left wing, right wing, center, it doesn't matter. Countries aren't run by their people. They are either run by oligarchies, whether they are political (your garden variety communist party like in China and North Korea) or economic (cleptocrats in Russia and the EU), the results are the same. When a few are in power over many, they don't like the idea of the many being more difficult to physically control should they decide to really crack down on popular dissent. The only reason we're less restrictive on long guns than most countries is that major chunks of our economy (agriculture and resources) routinely use guns.

In any case, the rabble will never have the armament to match a modern military and that shouldn't be the goal considering the level of current technology. The rabble should have a parity with the ones policing them, though. History has taught us that you can defeat a country's military and have control of the territory, but if the people don't wanna be controlled, a decently armed insurgency will prevent you from taking full control of the country. As long as the government represents the interests of the people to a reasonable extent and the police serves and protects the community, citizenry being armed on the par with the law enforcement sector is an absolute non-issue :cool:
 
One thing that will be an issue is that as an AR is basically two pieces, The top half is the action that has been made in semi auto and select fire. I am sure I have also seen aftermarket bolt and pump actions.

The bottom is the receiver which houses the magazine, trigger group and happens to have the serial number on it.

unless you permanently pinned/locked a bolt action upper to the lower, anyone looking to find fault would say that the rifle could "easily" be changed over to full/semi auto.

but this is just my opinion
 
Sleeper said:
unless you permanently pinned/locked a bolt action upper to the lower, anyone looking to find fault would say that the rifle could "easily" be changed over to full/semi auto.
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That's true, but the reason my soon to be fellow club member asked me to look into sending him an AR was that he knows a couple of people who have legally registered, converted to manual cycling AR's, plus he likes the platform (been to the States). Then I figured, I might as well bring mine as a range toy and can also use it as a hunting gun (currently in the process of verifying the hunting regs). They got deer down there.
 
mrak said:
This is the one i was going for. I just roll my eyes and bite my lip , guns are easy
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Agreed. Not afraid to get my hands dirty and I like messing with mechanicals. If you do a bit of homework, understand the mechanism and know the basic rules of wrenching on anything, you're good to go. A lot more risk in doing the brakes on my car lol
 
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