Peter the Great M91`

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Seems like a tired old thing...still cool though



The proud screws on the bands are a tad disappointing, but into each life a little rain must fall, eh?


Battle damage on the butt? Crossed Cannons cartouche would be correct, no?


BBL measures 31.5 " to the middle of the Hex receiver...that'd make it a 91, no?


Did someone sand the metal? Don't know...
Anyone with input...sound off, it's always good
 
Example of a Finnsh captured rifle. Looks like someone has "tried" to restore it. It has the correct bands and screws for a early Mosin. Its a shame that all the patina has been removed from the barrel and it looks like someone sanded the butt.
 
Yeah, a well intended ( but un-knowlegeable ) person sorta ruined the collectability with some emory cloth.
But not judging; it may have been a basket case...although strangely it appears to have a touch of cosmo on the receiver? Can't see it til you lift the bolt is why it doesn't show in the pictures.
Bore is Gray, but it shoots OK. It's running backup for Elk hunting tomorrow.
And the D stamp means... .308 diameter bbl? Interweb can be confusing sometimes...
 
The D means the chamber throat will accept the D166 service round. Nothing more. the Bore is probably around .311".

The metal could be as-issued. The Finns themselves likely sanded the metal during refurbishment at some point. These were usually refinished in service one or more times. Those early M91's went through the winter war and the continuation war, then through many recruits' hands in training. It might just be a well-worn finish. I'd look under the handguard, if it's blued there, then it's just worn from use. if it's in the white, then someone has been at it.
 
Seems like a tired old thing...still cool though



The proud screws on the bands are a tad disappointing, but into each life a little rain must fall, eh?


Battle damage on the butt? Crossed Cannons cartouche would be correct, no?


BBL measures 31.5 " to the middle of the Hex receiver...that'd make it a 91, no?


Did someone sand the metal? Don't know...
Anyone with input...sound off, it's always good

Tulsky Imperatora Petra Velikhovo Oruzhenny Zavod 1916 - Emperor Peter the Great Tulsky Armament Plant 1916. One word: a beautiful piece of historical rifle. You are lucky!
 
Tulsky Imperatora Petra Velikhovo Oruzhenny Zavod 1916 - Emperor Peter the Great Tulsky Armament Plant 1916. One word: a beautiful piece of historical rifle. You are lucky!

Oh, luck is easy when one has an M39 to trade. Lots of choices then, lol.
The stamping on the flat of the Hex...what is it? Anyone know?
And it will be going Elk hunting BTW, backup rifle. Not unlike honorable mention.
 
Oh, luck is easy when one has an M39 to trade. Lots of choices then, lol.
The stamping on the flat of the Hex...what is it? Anyone know?
And it will be going Elk hunting BTW, backup rifle. Not unlike honorable mention.

It's tsar Nicholas the 2nd's Sigil.
 
The D means the chamber throat will accept the D166 service round. Nothing more. the Bore is probably around .311".

The metal could be as-issued. The Finns themselves likely sanded the metal during refurbishment at some point. These were usually refinished in service one or more times. Those early M91's went through the winter war and the continuation war, then through many recruits' hands in training. It might just be a well-worn finish. I'd look under the handguard, if it's blued there, then it's just worn from use. if it's in the white, then someone has been at it.

Question Claven? Does the hex pic metal work look Emory cloth, or more like a file? No-one other than the factory is likely to get that aggressive...as to hit it with a file, are they?
 
I think that the band screw is not proud, but the way it is supposed to be. The screw is part of the band and won't be lost when loosened for dis-assembly.
 
Oh, luck is easy when one has an M39 to trade. Lots of choices then, lol.
The stamping on the flat of the Hex...what is it? Anyone know?
And it will be going Elk hunting BTW, backup rifle. Not unlike honorable mention.

let me know if u have any more M39's to trade....i have a few WW1 M91
 
Nice find! It's a Finn capture and rebuild in case you didn't know. The metal does look sanded to me, the lines on the receiver kinda indicate that. How's the bore?

Finn Capture is highly doubtful in the case of WW1 Rifles.. Finland was part of Russia untill 1917,so it could have been inherited... another good possibility is that it was purchased by Finland from Austria,Hungary,Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia, or it might have been gifted by Germany as they had captured vast numbers on the eastern front.....Finn Capture is correct term for WW2 M91/30 and SVT-38&40's and all other gear of WW2, but not WW1 M91.....Peter the Great marking was only used from 1915-1917,so its a very rare and sought after variant....Stock is aWW2 replacement, that was also used to hammer wooden posts in and around army bases in Helsinki region well into 1980's
 
Question Claven? Does the hex pic metal work look Emory cloth, or more like a file? No-one other than the factory is likely to get that aggressive...as to hit it with a file, are they?

You sometimes see lines like that in Finn guns. To me, it looks draw-sanded. You wrap a piece of fine san paper around a hard object like a mill file and draw it down the flats, usually to remove surface corrosion. Typically you blue afterward.

Like i said, if it's got no bluing under the wood, then it's messed with. If it's messed with, I'd be tempted to drop it in a blunt tank just the way it is to darken it without removing any more character.
 
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