PGW Timbewolf pros and cons? looking for opinions

I think the price for a Coyote or Timberwolf for that matter are very reasonable considering the quality of the rifle you are getting, especially if you are importing a rifle from the US. As nothing man made is immune from problems, try sending a rifle to and from the US after having issues. I would much rather deal with it in country. Even my Accuracy International rifle which I believe is worth every penny I paid for it can be dealt with here. I have had zero issues with it after 2 yrs of hard use and will never get rid of it but I can send it to Wolverine, where I bought it and not have to worry about cross border issues.
 
What do the PGW rifles hold for a gaurantee on the MOA ?? And thank you rsp1761 for agreeing in my right to express an opinion..which it is. I could say the sky is green and its just an opinion people. Peoples feathers get ruffled so easy. I didnt call anything junk. I expressed my opinion on it being more then what i would pay. The two i have shot were decent but not where i would want them to be for the money. Three TRG's i know of will hold to or out shoot the PGW's i know of. Not to say all will but the ones i know of. Perhaps if the Blazer and TRG's were from here they my have the Canadian contract today and not the PGW's..just saying..opinion. I think we just come up short due to the culture of Americans and their shooting. Sure..we have the hockey thing covered but we as Canadians dont shoot as much and have the base to draw from here in Canada like them . When i see a PGW finish in the top ten in a tactical match in the US i will be forced to take notice. Till then i will take a Gradous rifle which cost me the price of PGW.
 
savagelover81 said:
Furtaker thank you for your opinion. and dirtrymax as well ;) As I started this thread please feel welcome to comment but there is no need to keep stating your opinion over and over again! please lets move on.
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You know what they say......." Opinions are like A$$holes.................everyone has one"....... ;)

On that note, once I have some business attended to, I will be looking at a PGW Coyote.........or maybe even a T-Wolf when the time comes.........I would rather support a Canadian business if possible.............. :)
 
=furtaker;8593107]I read these so called forums and have to laugh at the fact how censored it is. Maybe some people on these posts should crawl on "Snipers hide" and see how they fair. At least there you can express what you feel about a product and not have to delete what you say or feel. Greentips should take a look at some of his moderators and question some actions on here. Great form for selling stuff but lacks the freedom to express your views and facts about forum sponsers or rifle builder on the site. As to the debate on PGW rifles i have had two friends that have owned them and i was able to out perform them very easy with my Robert Gradous bulit rifle. I have seen very few custom rifle builders that hold consistinty in there work. Its like a CFL player going to the NFL..they ride the pine. All in all..PGW's are crazy expensive and i feel can be beat in all reguards for about half the price. CGN has far to many"tack Drivers " that are far from it because you cant keep people in check because of the fear you will be banned from the site or have what you say deleated. Just my 2 cents worth so thanks for reading. And 1, 2, 3
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hmmm! You sound like a real expert just like Dirtymaxipad you guys must know each other:rolleyes: Well I think I will listen to guys with a little more experience like Kyle former Navy Seal and instructor http://www.kyledefoor.com/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00:00:00-05:00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00:00:00-05:00&max-results=46 and he has no loyalties to PGW. I think the following sums it up pretty nicely but I am sure an expert such as yourself will still know better your types always do f:P:


The bottom line- spend cheap, pay twice. Posted by Kyle at 9:07 PM 3 comments: Saturday, August 1, 2009Prairie Gun Works Timberwolf .338 Lapua





I'd first heard of the .338 when the Canadians went to it years ago and I thought nothing of it. Arrogantly assuming my issued .300 WINMAG was on par, and if it wasns't I could make up the difference in performance. Boy, was that ever the wrong thought! I first got to shoot it about 2 years ago when some Canadian snipers came down to run the yard lines. My first impression was, well, impressed. Still, only 20 or 40 rounds really is not enough to make the call.

Recently, thanks to Larry's personal collection and us being on a T.V. show about guns, I got to shoot it for about 3 days and 250 or so rounds. I will admit that months ago I selfishly suggested the Tiberwolf for an episode, secretly hoping I'd get a lot of time on it.

I can say now without question it's the best sniper rifle I've ever seen, shot or heard of(of course, having Schmidt & Bender's 5 to 25 on top ain't hurting) It weighs in at only 3lbs more than a Remington 700! The benefits of the Lapua .338 are well worth 3 lbs. .338 to .308 is almost like comparing .308 to 5.56. It flys that flat, with many .50 cal traits in tow without the agony of the BMG.

If you're a military leader and you're reading this, seriously ask why the U.S. doesn't have this in the inventory. If you need more convincing, watch the episode on it coming up in a few weeks. Posted by Kyle at 4:39 PM 5 comments:
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I guess Rob Furlong is wrong as well http://www.robfurlong.com/index.php/affiliates

furtaker you sound as convincing as a used car salesman with bad english! Whats Snipers Hide never heard of it? I thought the precision rifle forum on CGN was the only one like it in the whole world gee I must be missing out on some super duper info! So my opinion is flawed as only an expert such as yourself knows of this Snipers Hide you talk of. I will immediately sign up so I can be an expert like you with such informed opinions :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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Please dont put words in my mouth DG. I never said i was an expert and maybe if i lobbed shots at someone till i hit something i may be deemed an expert too. And i never said i would want a miltary built sniper rifle as they only need a MOA of 1.5 at 1000 yards to pass the test. And by all means go on the hide and have a look and maybe your narrow minded ways may be opened to a new world. The point i was making is there is better then PGW and cheaper. Enough said by me. Thanks
 
furtaker said:
Please dont put words in my mouth DG. I never said i was an expert and maybe if i lobbed shots at someone till i hit something i may be deemed an expert too. And i never said i would want a miltary built sniper rifle as they only need a MOA of 1.5 at 1000 yards to pass the test. And by all means go on the hide and have a look and maybe your narrow minded ways may be opened to a new world. The point i was making is there is better then PGW and cheaper. Enough said by me. Thanks
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You put the words in yer own mouth... I'm doubting that there is anything you could say or do that would make us believe you are an expert, except maybe as a pile-it..


PS the timberwolf has a stated and proven accurary of SUB 0.75 MOA but don't let facts like that get in the way of your multiple personality rant.. have at 'er
 
I still can't understand why this keeps happening? Almost everyone who is in the know in the Canadian shooting world knows about the quality and performance of PGW. I think the fact that Ross is willing to come on here and defend his product speaks volumes.

At the end of the day, if the T-Wolf is good enough for our boys that go into harms way it is more than good enough for the interweb armchair commandos/experts.

I know there are lots of great custom guns out there but for the money of the PGW which they will setup almost any way you want you end up with a top quality rifle as good as anything the guys in the states put out.
 
Some do..yes. We is a little thick on here aren't we. Never said they weren't any good..said they were more then what i would spend for the few i have seen. Better routes to take if you ask me. Do what you want. Snipers Hide is just a good place to look outside of Canada for a few ideas of what's better out there . Come guys..less posting and more shooting. Summer is short.
 
I agree....I'm not sure what's not to like. Ross is a great guy who fully supports his product and takes the time for the guys who buy a rifle from him and the guys just inquiring about his product...I for one probably drove him nuts with emails for months and he returned every one and in a timely manner...
I objectively looked at lots of rifles beforehand and ended up with a Coyote. I am very happy with it and have absolutely no regrets.
Sometimes seems like some just want to feel good about their own purchases by putting uninformed negative opinions on these forums. There are lots of good rifles out there so do your research and enjoy what you shoot....don't sh!t on everbody else because they may have something better.
There are always lots of 1/2 moa Savages and Remingtons for sale on the EE for the Call of Duty guys.
 
I've already posted on this thread but I will re-iterate that I've reviewed the PGW head to head with the TRG and some custom builds and it certainly doesn't take a back seat. Of the ones I own/owned and those owned by friends all ( speaking of Coyotes here ) are half-minute guns if shooters,glass and ammo are on form.

Priced out, the Coyote is a bit less than what I got ATRS to build for me and a bit less than what Tac-Ord charged for a custom ( both could be built cheaper of course as the essence of a custom gun is that price is largely determined by what you, the owner want ) and from what I've seen PGW is highly competitive with what US custom makers charge even before you factor in the cost of getting said rifle into our, Canadian, hands.

Compared to pure factory rifles the PGW are a bit more expensive than the Sako TRG but add-in the cost of a spare Sako magazine and a Sako brake and the price gap closes. Compared to the AI offerings the PGW is quite a bit cheaper. I consider the TRG's and the AI's to be good comparators to the PGW. I believe these pricing comments are applicable to the .308 Coyote and the .338 Timberwolf.
 
I never said I was an expert and maybe if i lobbed shots at someone till i hit something i may be deemed an expert too.
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Well well you have shown your true colors remember what I said about your types! here I will remind you! " I am sure an expert such as yourself will still know better your types always do"

Only a douche bag would make a comment like this about one of our own soldiers who risked his life and probably saved countless others lobbing shots at targets until he hits them as you put it. I guess you are a one shot one kill mall ninja expert! I really need to find this Snipers Hide you keep talking about Rob Furlong and Kyle Defoor need to be on this Snipers Hide as well so they can learn how to shoot properly FFS you really are a gem furfaker! I really did want to replace the "a":p:evil:
 
Tomochan said:
I've already posted on this thread but I will re-iterate that I've reviewed the PGW head to head with the TRG and some custom builds and it certainly doesn't take a back seat. Of the ones I own/owned and those owned by friends all ( speaking of Coyotes here ) are half-minute guns if shooters,glass and ammo are on form.

Priced out, the Coyote is a bit less than what I got ATRS to build for me and a bit less than what Tac-Ord charged for a custom ( both could be built cheaper of course as the essence of a custom gun is that price is largely determined by what you, the owner want ) and from what I've seen PGW is highly competitive with what US custom makers charge even before you factor in the cost of getting said rifle into our, Canadian, hands.

Compared to pure factory rifles the PGW are a bit more expensive than the Sako TRG but add-in the cost of a spare Sako magazine and a Sako brake and the price gap closes. Compared to the AI offerings the PGW is quite a bit cheaper. I consider the TRG's and the AI's to be good comparators to the PGW. I believe these pricing comments are applicable to the .308 Coyote and the .338 Timberwolf.
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Always well put! Caveman like me not communicate like The Tomochan;-)
 
Colquhoun said:
I agree....I'm not sure what's not to like. Ross is a great guy who fully supports his product and takes the time for the guys who buy a rifle from him and the guys just inquiring about his product...I for one probably drove him nuts with emails for months and he returned every one and in a timely manner...
I objectively looked at lots of rifles beforehand and ended up with a Coyote. I am very happy with it and have absolutely no regrets.
Sometimes seems like some just want to feel good about their own purchases by putting uninformed negative opinions on these forums. There are lots of good rifles out there so do your research and enjoy what you shoot....don't sh!t on everbody else because they may have something better.
There are always lots of 1/2 moa Savages and Remingtons for sale on the EE for the Call of Duty guys.
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I agree Ross and the PGW crew :cool::canadaFlag::rockOn:
 
yukoncoyote said:
I still can't understand why this keeps happening? Almost everyone who is in the know in the Canadian shooting world knows about the quality and performance of PGW. I think the fact that Ross is willing to come on here and defend his product speaks volumes.

At the end of the day, if the T-Wolf is good enough for our boys that go into harms way it is more than good enough for the interweb armchair commandos/experts.

I know there are lots of great custom guns out there but for the money of the PGW which they will setup almost any way you want you end up with a top quality rifle as good as anything the guys in the states put out.
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:agree:
 
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