Picked up a Project at a recent Auction...

If the bore is not heavily pitted, badly dented or bent, it should be repairable. Everything else is repairable and the bore can be honed. Have brought a few fowlers back to shooting condition over the last couple of years. Fun and rewarding projects. English. Liege, Maker's name?
 
If the bore is not heavily pitted, badly dented or bent, it should be repairable. Everything else is repairable and the bore can be honed. Have brought a few fowlers back to shooting condition over the last couple of years. Fun and rewarding projects. English. Liege, Maker's name?
I agree, I have a lock, butt plate, trigger, Ramrod... I also have a plain chunk of black walnut plank. If I can save the barrel, great, if not, the condition of the other parts will help me determine wall hanger vs, rebuild with a new barrel and stock.

Regarding make, it was sold as "unknown". Here are some more pictures from the auction listing; I don't know much about Fouling Pieces; maybe the photos might shed a bit of light:

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Pretty sure it is British. Once the barrel is out, there should be proof marks.
Looks as if the rib is too short - broken in addition to being detached. Restore it to full length before reattaching it to the barrel. Instead of soldering it, I'd be inclined to clean the contact surfaces and use Loctite Black Max or similar modern adhesive. Going to need a forend cap too.
The tape suggests that there is a problem with the underlug and cross bolt.
Looks as if it was rode hard and put away wet, but also looks as if it was a decent quality working gun when made. If the bore cleans up OK, it might be a shooter.
 
I agree, likely British and probably late 19th century. The rib appears to be bent and running off to the left side of the stock, so possibly not too short. Proof marks should reveal origin. Any name or location on lock face or top of barrel?

tiriaq,
Do you have hands on experience with ribs reattached using modern adhesives such as high quality epoxy? Interested in how they stood up to use. My experience was not positive and have returned to resoldering. NOT a job I enjoy:(
 
Oldest one is a rifle with a bonded rib (flat to flat) that I installed over 40 years ago. No sign of separation. Vented ribs, even barrels into monoblocs are now assembled with bonding agents.
 
Pretty sure it is British. Once the barrel is out, there should be proof marks.
Looks as if the rib is too short - broken in addition to being detached. Restore it to full length before reattaching it to the barrel. Instead of soldering it, I'd be inclined to clean the contact surfaces and use Loctite Black Max or similar modern adhesive. Going to need a forend cap too.
The tape suggests that there is a problem with the underlug and cross bolt.
Looks as if it was rode hard and put away wet, but also looks as if it was a decent quality working gun when made. If the bore cleans up OK, it might be a shooter.

I agree, likely British and probably late 19th century. The rib appears to be bent and running off to the left side of the stock, so possibly not too short. Proof marks should reveal origin. Any name or location on lock face or top of barrel?

tiriaq,
Do you have hands on experience with ribs reattached using modern adhesives such as high quality epoxy? Interested in how they stood up to use. My experience was not positive and have returned to resoldering. NOT a job I enjoy:(

Oldest one is a rifle with a bonded rib (flat to flat) that I installed over 40 years ago. No sign of separation. Vented ribs, even barrels into monoblocs are now assembled with bonding agents.
Thanks guys; I think the tape might be to prevent the key from falling out. It does appear to be there. I was actually contemplating adhesive bonding. I have a lot of experience with bonding (particularly automotive glass encapsulation.) I have access to various bonding agents, masking tapes and release agents. A rib extension should not be too difficult. I will post some more info as it comes available.
 
Well, I finally got around to taking it apart today, found some stuff on the bottom of the barrel.
I'm looking, but any info would be helpful. Thanks!

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I believe H&S is for Hollis & Sheath.
Thanks, that is more than I was able to find! Based on the proof marks, it looks like Birmingham Proof House, 1830-1855. She's an old one.
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https://collectionswa.net.au/items/f091ae5f-ed99-4f6e-b66a-e7aa89793a94

This one looks very similar, but in a larger gauge. They date it at 1850-1860, which seems to jive with the proof marks. Seems H & S could also be "Hollis and Sons"; same company but I think single barrels seem to be "and Sons" while doubles seem to be "and Sheath".
 
Thanks, that is more than I was able to find! Based on the proof marks, it looks like Birmingham Proof House, 1830-1855. She's an old one.
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https://collectionswa.net.au/items/f091ae5f-ed99-4f6e-b66a-e7aa89793a94

This one looks very similar, but in a larger gauge. They date it at 1850-1860, which seems to jive with the proof marks. Seems H & S could also be "Hollis and Sons"; same company but I think single barrels seem to be "and Sons" while doubles seem to be "and Sheath".
Despite the pitting on the exterior of the barrel, the inside is quite smooth, and there seems to be lots of material, even at the muzzle end. It may well shoot again. :)
 
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