I am looking at starting shooting IPSC this year and I am using reloads but was wondering how it works for your brass. I can't afford to loose all my brass every time I shoot. Are you able to pick up your brass after you shoot your stage or how does it work to get your brass back?
Picking up your Brass in IPSC competion.
- Thread starter KriJax201
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Increasingly, you will hear the phrase "This is a lost brass match." (Which means you are not allowed to pick up any brass.)
Even if the match is not a lost-brass match, you will find many range officers unwilling to permit you to pick brass during the match, saying that brass-picking unduly slows the progression of the match.
Both 9mm and .40 brass is relatively common and relatively inexpensive, and this factor helps account for their widespread popularity.
Even if the match is not a lost-brass match, you will find many range officers unwilling to permit you to pick brass during the match, saying that brass-picking unduly slows the progression of the match.
Both 9mm and .40 brass is relatively common and relatively inexpensive, and this factor helps account for their widespread popularity.
most level 1 and 2 it is not an Issue in NB at IPSC matches. THat being said,...the range does not wait for you to pick up your brass. How it goes is like this; you shoot the stage. After it is scored and patched the next shooters is called to the line by the RO. After everyone has shot that stage, the squad moves to another range or stage. IN between stages, or in between shooters you may find time to pick up your brass; OR, you can wait until the match is over and pick up brass.
The odd time, there are actually so many people patching that someone will have time to pick up brass. Most shooting 9mm or even .40 don't worry too much about it. Those shooting .45 acp, or 38 super etc make the extra effort to save there brass ($)
Having used my 38 super last month, I really paid attention to my brass and had a helpfull guy on my squad who was picking up most peoples brass for them when he was not shooting.
IN level 3 matches (in NB, there are only 2 squeduled for this season), you will not likely be permitted to pick up brass unless there is no one shooting.
What calibre will you be shooting?
KriJax201,
I find it very unreasonable when ROs are telling shooters not to pick brass.
It is your property afterwards. The only stipulation is not getting into other people way. I do not pick my brass at almost any level match, except if is my home range,
however I shoot .40 and this brass is easy to obtain for cheap. This year I will shoot some .45 and I will drop on my knees to pick my brass as much as I can.
I find it very unreasonable when ROs are telling shooters not to pick brass.
It is your property afterwards. The only stipulation is not getting into other people way. I do not pick my brass at almost any level match, except if is my home range,
however I shoot .40 and this brass is easy to obtain for cheap. This year I will shoot some .45 and I will drop on my knees to pick my brass as much as I can.
That pretty much sums it up.
You need to think about a match like a woodshed filling party. There will be chuckles along the way, but everyone has a role to play. Picking up brass isn't at the top of that list.
Immediately after the shooter is finished, everyone except for the shooter on deck has a job to do.
The RO and the shooter are checking the targets for score. (The scorekeeper may have scored earlier targets as the competitor moved forward, so he may have a shadow confirming the score for the competitor.)
The rest of the squad will be following the scorekeeper, patching targets and resetting steel, painting steel, resetting doors, etc. Someone will probably be scooping up the dropped mags/speedloaders.
While this is going on, the shooter on deck will be either waiting at the start position, thinking about his approach, or taking a last walk through the stage.
Done right, from "Range Clear" to LAMR can be just 2-3 minutes.
well you COULD use a brass catcher or a revolver?- the brasscatcher throws the "balance " of the gun off, and it takes a special kind to shoot ipsc with a revolver- i would suggest you consider the ipsc the same as golf- you're going to lose a certain number of balls, same deal with brass- it's not a sport for counting pennies- at least get virgin brass and NOT loaded ammo- that'll save you a few bucks right there
I usually bring a plastic pail, and I keep it with our squad and what usually happens is if everyone works there is usually a couple of guys that can come behind and pick brass while scoring, and resetting of targets is done. Having everyone work is key. We usually throw all of the brass in the pail, and we divide it up at the end of the match. I like to try and get some back, especially my hard to get 9x21 and expensive .45. It works really well. Bigger matches, I forget about it, as I am concerned only with shooting and usually tell the guys if we have time when our squad is done on that particular range to clean the range up of all brass if they want.
Is that a hypothetical situation there..? LOL
'Cause really... Most matches I shoot it's usually the same two guys doing most if the work while the rest of the squad ghosts the stage for the tenth time or stands around talking about the latest mods to their gun...
It's good to state in the Range Briefing that all participants are expected to help with range duties. If I saw someone not helping out, I'd hand him a patch gun or a broom. There's nothing finer than seeing a match go by without falling behind, and nothing more frustrating that starting the third squad while the forth is arriving!
It's not like we ask the last squad to stay behind and tear-down, but we always have enough volunteers that the job goes quickly. As part of the teardown, brass is collected and divided among the tear-down workers.
If I'm not there at the end, I lose the brass. 9mm isn't really that expensive.
It's not like we ask the last squad to stay behind and tear-down, but we always have enough volunteers that the job goes quickly. As part of the teardown, brass is collected and divided among the tear-down workers.
If I'm not there at the end, I lose the brass. 9mm isn't really that expensive.
In Alberta you can pick brass however we do our squadding a little differently. we break the shooters up into two groups. one group is working, so they are responsible for ROing, taping and setting steel. the other group is shooting. we switch over at noon. this means that the shooting group can pick brass if they so desire or if the squad doesn't you can pick between shooters.
I know I'm dating myself, but this is the way it used to be back in the good ol' days. You'd come back from scoring and be met by one of your squad-mates with all your mags and a handfull of brass. Seems IPSC was more social then. A few us still do it, hoping it will catch on again. Helping your squad-mates doesn't take any time at all.
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At weekly league nights here, one person has a brass-wheely-thing and picks up all the brass, as everyone else tapes. We pick up mags for the shooter as we head downrange to patch.
Going price for 9mm is about 20$ per thousand, 40 is a bit more, 45 acp is something close to 150$.
Some matches you can pic your brass some matches you can not, it was one of the reasons why I made the switch to 9mm.
If you chose to shoot revolver with moonclips you always get your brass back. Everyone gets their mags at the end of thier run, a revolver gets his moonclips back to with all his brass conveniently still hanging from it.
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You have to get your entire squad to work, in turn. The issue is that a 6 or 8 man squad is eaten up fast
"range clear" command
Shooter is now confirming scores
Next shooter is doing a walk through
On deck is getting nervous
last shooter is cleaning and replenishing mags
only two or maybe four guys to help.
And from the RO side, getting all the shooters through on time is important. If you are part of a slllllooooooowwwww stage it is uncomfortable, whether it is your fault or not.
"range clear" command
Shooter is now confirming scores
Next shooter is doing a walk through
On deck is getting nervous
last shooter is cleaning and replenishing mags
only two or maybe four guys to help.
And from the RO side, getting all the shooters through on time is important. If you are part of a slllllooooooowwwww stage it is uncomfortable, whether it is your fault or not.
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Think of it as part of the expenses for the sport.
How many brass you'll lost at LV1 & LV2 Match? Most likely between 80 - 120.
Concentrate on shooting than worry about picking up brass may help a bit for getting a better result. YMMV.
How many brass you'll lost at LV1 & LV2 Match? Most likely between 80 - 120.
Concentrate on shooting than worry about picking up brass may help a bit for getting a better result. YMMV.
