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Is it still a requirement to hunt geese in fields with steel shot only ? I thought I noticed while looking through the regs on line that it didn't mention non toxic for geese but it did for ducks . Can anyone confirm this
 
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Waterfowl in canada can only be hunted with steel shot. Even having one lead shell in your backpack can turn your day sour if you run into OPP or MNR.
 
I'm no lover of Steel Shot, but it will work in a bit closer.

I much prefer Tungsten-Matrix and Bismuth.....obviously at a bit more money.

Regards, Dave.
 
tylerjwitty said:
That blows . Steel is useless must be why thy call it non toxic . It doesn't kill
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When it 1st came out I would agree with you. Not today. One has to spend more time with their gun shooting paper and working loads and changing choke tubes but once you get a combination that works for you 60 yards is not out of reach if one can shoot
Cheers
 
tylerjwitty said:
That blows . Steel is useless must be why thy call it non toxic . It doesn't kill
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Not at all true. The newer steel loads can be quite effective, if you use the correct choke, and your wingshooting skills are adequate. Then again, many people can't be bothered to pattern their gun, and many people could really use some shooting practise.
 
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I'm kinda confused at some responses. Maybe y'all took my post to the "t" I wasn't saying a bunny shot at 5 paces with 3 1/2 steel would leave unharmed . My point is lead has much more power behind each pellet . I too have also taken geese down at longer ranges with steel, but only because a ball or two found the head or neck .

I have seen so many geese getting pumped with steel and feathers flying only to see them fly over the tree line. I have also seen geese died or dieing or busted legs at town parks or waste water lagoons because of the lack of killing power of steel .

My point was , in case it was missed , I like lead much better than steel and I feel it is more ethical to use .
 
tylerjwitty said:
I'm kinda confused at some responses. Maybe y'all took my post to the "t" I wasn't saying a bunny shot at 5 paces with 3 1/2 steel would leave unharmed . My point is lead has much more power behind each pellet . I too have also taken geese down at longer ranges with steel, but only because a ball or two found the head or neck . I have seen so many geese getting pumped with steel and feathers flying only to see them fly over the tree line. I have also seen geese died or dieing or busted legs at town parks or waste water lagoons because of the lack of killing power of steel . My point was , in case it was missed , I like lead much better than steel and I feel it is more ethical to use .
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There is a lot of misinformation out there, mostly because a lot of people couldn't be bothered to learn how to shoot steel.

Steel Shot vs Lead Shot
 
Modern steel shot loads tend to produce much higher velocities, and when combined with using slightly larger shot, the penetration is quite adequate for providing clean kills on geese at reasonable ranges. As for geese being killed by pellets striking the head and neck, that often isn't a fluke, many hunters specifically target the front of the goose, greatly increasing the odds of pellets striking the head/neck area. If you take the time to do some patterning to choose a load, and a choke, and you have decent shooting skills, steel isn't nearly the handicap that many people , that don't know any better, would have us believe.
 
So basically what your attempting to say in a nut she'll is this , correct me if I'm wrong, a 20 dollar box of shells 31/2 in steel or lead , you choose steel . Lead being legal by some chance .

As for steel being round , pull apart a few. Their is sizes from #2 to bb in some of them and shaped like nerd candy
 
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