*PICTURE WARNING* Portuguese contract 1941 K98K

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A while back there was some discussion about the Port-contract K98 that Armco had sold in refinished condition. I was fortunate to be the one to snag it, but only today did I get around to photographing it.

I've included some pictures in this message, but there are many more closeups available in this album:

http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm26/jsmithsmithj/Port41Mauser/

First off, the serial number of the rifle is H161, which is the lowest H-block serial number that I've seen. The Portuguese K98K survey on Gunboards has a posting from someone with H162, so I've contacted them with the hopes that they'll send some pictures to compare with mine.

Armco sold the rifle as having both metal and wood refinished. Comparing to online pictures and a close examination of the stamps and machining marks, I think the metal finish is original. Initially, I was suspicious of a rebarrel since the barrel had no serial number and had a deep chocolate brown colour; however, I've since come across some photos of other Port K98s with similar lack of serial numbers and colouration. I've posted closeups of the barrel proofs and stamps, so I'd appreciate someone more knowledgeable than me (probably most of you here!) to chime in with your thoughts.

The wood continues to baffle me. If the metal has not been refinished, then it shows the rifle has seen little or no use. As such, I can't imagine the stock being worn down or dinged up enough that someone would refinish it. However, there are three things that suggest to me the stock may have been redone:

1) There are no markings on the stock besides the serial number on the bottom of the buttstock and the inside of the front handguard. In all other Port K98s I've seen, the Portuguese crest is stamped on the right side of the buttstock and a waffenamt at the bottom of the wrist.

2) The right side of the receiver tang is slightly proud of the wood. This is always a red flag for a refinish.

3) There is a thin line of staining on the surface of the buttplate where it meets the wood. This could indicate finish was added to the buttstock with the buttplate in place. I don't know for certain, but I would have expected the stock to be originally finished with the buttplate removed.

I've included a lot of different angles of the wood where the markings should be. Under close inspection, I can't see any sanding marks, uneveness/dishing in the wood surface, or damage to the wood fibres where stamps should have been. Additionally, except for the tang, the wood is well-proud of all metal. Yet, I can't imagine the rifle having been shipped without the cartouches.

Based on these pictures, what are your opinions about the originality of the rifle? The rifle is still apart, so I can take any requested pictures if they'll help. The action screws were very stiff to remove, and I've left the light greasy coating that I found on the metal under the wood in place.

I've also love to know the meaning of the markings on the base of the barrel and the "RW" stamp.

Thanks!

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Nice rifle, and you scored a home run at that price. AND LOOK AT THAT WOOD!

The RW is just some in house inspector stamp from the MO factory.
 
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To be honest, I'm not sure the crest could be buffed out of thestock and still have the wood prod of the buttplate like that?

I too think it's been redone, maybe it rusted in a storage case or something? But maybe the wood had not been stamped, missed at the factory or something? Dunno.
 
I don't know. If that is a reblue the man on the buffing wheel was an artist. There doesn't seem to be any smearing of stampings or crests whatsoever. A comparison with some good pics of a close serial number will tell you for sure, I would think. Nice Mauser!
 
ok guys why u got to rub your k98 in my face haha someday ill own one......
btw that is one of the nices looking k98 ive seen i love the stock, how does she shoot?
 
i dont think its been redone.mines an h block as well and the crest on the stock is very faint but on a g block i had it was 1/8 of an inch deep.it varies
 
I don't know. If that is a reblue the man on the buffing wheel was an artist. There doesn't seem to be any smearing of stampings or crests whatsoever. A comparison with some good pics of a close serial number will tell you for sure, I would think. Nice Mauser!

Wouldn't need to be buffed, could be been chemically stripped, who knows.
Maybe it was even cleaned with something to powerfeul and it dulled it down.

The stock is a mystery as my rifle above H907 was likely built the same day. 336,000 rifles built in MO in 41, gives you 920 rifles a day.
 
I saw one of those last year before a buddy sold it for $800.

They were sent new to Portugal in 1941 and Portugal never used them and then some got sold into Canada in the 1970s I believe.
 
I saw that bruce thinks its original, hes knows his ####, maybe it is, but has definitely lost its high polish. Maybe some used an incorrect cleaning product.
 
I saw that bruce thinks its original, hes knows his s**t, maybe it is, but has definitely lost its high polish. Maybe some used an incorrect cleaning product.

I saw Bruce's comment, and I also heard back from the owner of H162, who said for all intents-and-purposes his rifle is the same as mine. The owner of H162 is going to send me some pictures when time allows, and that should hopefully clear things up a bit.

CanadianAR, thanks for your comments. I hadn't noticed the difference in polish level until you brought it up. I think there may have been some mild oxidation that took the polish off. I cleaned the receiver with some Gunzilla and was surprised at how red/brown the patches came out even though the receiver appeared to be clean.

When I looked at the receiver in bright light and with a 10x loupe, I could see a fine, uniform grain interspersed with small "fingers" of smooth polished metal. I'm guessing that the graininess was a result of the oxidation that was evident when I cleaned the receiver.
 
The wood and metal on mine look a little different than yours, but either way it's a beautiful example and a great find. Thanks for sharing.

Excellent photographs btw!

Here's a couple of snaps of mine for reference, will clean and photograph it properly one of these days.

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IMO that is not refinished or refurbished it is simply "as new". I don't care for 98's at all, but any near new milsurp rifle is a treasure when it was made 75 odd years ago. The wood is particularly nice. Obviously the Portuguese had more rifles than they needed and some simply remained in the armouries unused.

The real question is why were the Germans making rifles for the Portuguese in 1941 when they hadn't even switched to a war economy yet and were far behind on their military equipment targets based on pre-war planning (which called for war not earlier than 1944/45)
 
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