Piebald Deer, shoot or no shoot

45ACPKING said:
is this a proven result of letting piebald deer breed the trait into other deer?
I'd be interested to know more
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Basically the messed up genes that control the coat color do other stuff too, so there is a variety of issues they can exhibit in addition to the unusual color. Much like the amount of white on a piebald can vary greatly so can the degree of other abnormalities.
 
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FatCatsDad said:
Son got this on a trail cam hidden on public land.
It's a known genetic defect but in some US states it's illegal to shoot a Piebald or Albino and some states illegal to shoot if it's more than 50% white.
I'm not aware of any Canadian limitations on shooting white deer, but do know some are against it.

Why the hesitation to shoot by some some hunters.

Should you have to use a tag for these ?

Should they be an open season animal ?

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They don't have any antlers so I wouldn't shoot them. If they had nice impressive racks then for sure I would shoot. They are just deer, in the end
 
I have shot a piebald 4x4 WT buck that had pink hooves like a pig. Taxidermist screwed up the mount so left it with him.
 
FatCatsDad said:
Son got this on a trail cam hidden on public land.
It's a known genetic defect but in some US states it's illegal to shoot a Piebald or Albino and some states illegal to shoot if it's more than 50% white.
I'm not aware of any Canadian limitations on shooting white deer, but do know some are against it.

Why the hesitation to shoot by some some hunters.

Should you have to use a tag for these ?

Should they be an open season animal ?

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NO unless youre going to get it Taxidermied..... i rekon.

down here we see occaisonal white sambar, an they kill em for a instagram photo..... fknsad

shoot an mount it
 
What do you mean what does it mean? Apparently it’s sad to post a picture of a white deer on instagram, but not a brown one. Why is that?
 
Mutant animals like that should be culled and eaten. Taxidermined/tanned too if you're so inclined. Definitely not "left to breed" and contaminate the gene pool.
 
I can't agree about not needing the tag, but don't understand why so many people think a genetic mutant is something that should be promoted and preserved. I suppose that my career in animal agriculture is to blame for my anti-mutant attitude, but several biologist buddies would also say cull it.
 
Longwalker said:
I can't agree about not needing the tag, but don't understand why so many people think a genetic mutant is something that should be promoted and preserved. I suppose that my career in animal agriculture is to blame for my anti-mutant attitude, but several biologist buddies would also say cull it.
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It’s a sprit animal to the bleeding heart liberal city dwellers, I kept getting comments deleted awhile back about spirit bear sausage on some rainforest protection page on Instagram. I said I bet the white spirit bear sausages would be the best tasting, they weren’t impressed lol.
 
Is this white deer prohibition in some states based on the extremely rare white buffalo thing? If so, how foolish. Where white deer are protected animals, more and more of them will be white until perhaps they all are, I mean what natural predators do deer in the east have other than hunters? What I can see is that their more natural dark on top and light on the bottom colouration allows them to magically disappear behind practically no cover. OTOH, it makes absolutely no sense to protect albino deer because as already stated it represents a weakened and handicapped animal. The deer in the OP's photos is not an albino, its eyes have normal pigmentation.
 
Skin color in this day and age should NOT matter !!! Treat it as an equal...same as all the other deer !! It deserves to be tasted ...just like the others ! ;) ;) :)
 
Hunters that shoot off-coloured game are usually in for a lot of flack. If you can put up with the criticism, then fire away.
 
FatCatsDad said:
Son got this on a trail cam hidden on public land.
It's a known genetic defect but in some US states it's illegal to shoot a Piebald or Albino and some states illegal to shoot if it's more than 50% white.
I'm not aware of any Canadian limitations on shooting white deer, but do know some are against it.

Why the hesitation to shoot by some some hunters.

Should you have to use a tag for these ?

Should they be an open season animal ?

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Beautiful pictures David, absolutely gorgeous.

I no longer shoot any does, our WT population is declining in the Okanagan and Kootenay areas of BC. But I would not judge someone who did. As for those beautiful WT does, it would have to be a personal choice.

I would think a tag should be necessary as they are still a WT deer.

I would like to know if those abnormalities you listed apply to both white albino deer (pink eyes), and the current palomino type deer in your pictures. Those deer have brown eyes, so they definitely are not albinos even though they have a lot of white hair.

I call them palomino deer because we had the same colored moose in Prince George back in the late 80's and mid 90's. The COS called them palomino moose.

My wife and I have video proof of palomino elk in the Kootenay Region where we live near Cranbrook, BC. They were about 40% white mixed in with the brown, tan and chocolate colors. Again, very beautiful animals.

If I ever harvested a palomino buck WT deer like the ones in your pics, I would have it mounted and the hide made into a wall rug.
 
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