Pietta PPS 50

SpoonMan said:
Hey Vimy,
I'm assuming that you have tried the one with the plastic drum mag (black dog). Because the reviews on it are not that great. But it's a different story with the steal drum mag that you can order from Marstar or Wolverine supplies. I'll let you know in a day or two what is the outcome with this drum mag on my PPS-50.

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Okay cool, looking forward to your report. :cool:
 
I own tactical Marstar version of this (though the wood one is hot).

The drum mag worked perfectly with round noses, with hollow points about 2-3 problems per mag of 50.

The regular mag didn't fit properly for me and I had to take a grinder to get it to work. That may have been an issue with it and the synthetic stock though.

Quite like the size and look of the rifle though. Not much else like it in rimfire.
 
SpoonMan said:
Just got mine by DHL this morning. Bought it from Wolverine Supplies. I will clean it up tonight and go to the range this comming weekend.
Will let you know ;)
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How did the range outing go? I have my Pietta PPS 50 on the way from Wolverine.
 
Okay, whent to the range after work today and tried 3 kinds of ammo with the drum mag.
1st - Winchester Xpert HV = Jam - Jam and Jam
Unable to feed with this ammo as the bullet will not go in the chamber.
2nd- Blazer 40gr = Jam 50% hard time to feed again.
3rd- Remington Thunderbolt Round Nose = Almost perfect, no jamming problem only 4 did not go.

I tried all 3 kinds of ammo with the 10 round magazine and had no issues at all.
As for accuracy, well i'll get back to the range and post the results here next weekend.

SM
 
SpoonMan said:
Okay, whent to the range after work today and tried 3 kinds of ammo with the drum mag.
1st - Winchester Xpert HV = Jam - Jam and Jam
Unable to feed with this ammo as the bullet will not go in the chamber.
2nd- Blazer 40gr = Jam 50% hard time to feed again.
3rd- Remington Thunderbolt Round Nose = Almost perfect, no jamming problem only 4 did not go.

I tried all 3 kinds of ammo with the 10 round magazine and had no issues at all.
As for accuracy, well i'll get back to the range and post the results here next weekend.

SM
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I just got mine today in the mail. My drum came soaked in oil. Did you take it apart and clean it or just wipe it down? On the drum box it says you can not use any lead bullets with those serrated rings around them or it will cause jams. I have ordered a box of CCI mini mag 36 gr to try out because nobody around here sells any ammo like that for 22 lr.

Did you clean the rifle before shooting or did you just wipe the excess oil off the exterior. I was thinking about just wiping it down and going to shoot it.
 
Rhyno said:
I just got mine today in the mail. My drum came soaked in oil. Did you take it apart and clean it or just wipe it down? On the drum box it says you can not use any lead bullets with those serrated rings around them or it will cause jams. I have ordered a box of CCI mini mag 36 gr to try out because nobody around here sells any ammo like that for 22 lr.

Did you clean the rifle before shooting or did you just wipe the excess oil off the exterior. I was thinking about just wiping it down and going to shoot it.
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I took the rifle apart and cleaned it. As for the drum, I only took the oil of it.

SM
 
Rhyno said:
I just got mine today in the mail. My drum came soaked in oil. Did you take it apart and clean it or just wipe it down? On the drum box it says you can not use any lead bullets with those serrated rings around them or it will cause jams. I have ordered a box of CCI mini mag 36 gr to try out because nobody around here sells any ammo like that for 22 lr.

Did you clean the rifle before shooting or did you just wipe the excess oil off the exterior. I was thinking about just wiping it down and going to shoot it.
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This thread inspired me to take the plunge. :cheers:

I took one of my drums apart and it's not super easy to get it back together, but doable. Refer to the manual's drum diagram for the part names I'm using. http://www.pietta.us/pdf/MAN PPSPUMAweb.pdf My drums came soaked in oil as well and I found there is oil on the plastic rotor inside. I think it would be a good idea to get that off, not to mention when cleaning the drums after lots of firing I would like to be able to strip and assemble them.

So the main issue when reassembling the drum is that the rotor spring needs to have enough tension on it when you put it back together or you can hear the rotor rattle inside, the other drum I didn't take apart you can hear the spring but not the rotor. Another way to tell is by using the loading tool to depress the follower/dummy rounds, they should snap back up to the top if there is enough pressure. It's a little finicky getting those dummy rounds to sit right when reassembling the drum. It's best to spin the rotor until they rounds are sitting in the proper position before continuing. There is also another pin (not shown on the manual's diagram) which holds the inner part of the spring on the center pin, make sure that the end of the spring is in the slot in the center pin, put in the pin and make sure it is flush.

There is a tiny block pin that sets the tension when put in one of the four holes in the center pin. You basically need to spin the center pin around from the rear side using the magazine plug and hold it until you can put on the front cover which locks the block pin in place through a hole in the front cover. Then you put on the other magazine plug which secures the block pin in place from the other side. The front mag plug has a groove on the underside where that block pin fits into. The rear plug doesn't have this groove.

All I did was crank it around as much as I could, dropped the block pin in the corresponding hole in the center pin and then quickly put on the front drum cover and then the front plug. If one of the dealers can find out from Pietta the proper factory tension on the spring that would be nice (how many turns to set the tension). I imagine though as long as there is enough pressure from the spring to feed the rounds you should be okay.

Hopefully I can go test this puppy today and see how both drums function. I'll let you guys know.
 
Here's my update. I didn't have much time but I ran 210 rounds through it. 100 in each drum and one stick mag. Zero malfunctions. Mix of slow and rapid fire. I used Blazer/CCI round nose 40gr (has serrations). I'll do some more shooting soon with some other ammo and see what happens. I was surprised the drum I took apart functioned so well, so don't be afraid to strip them guys! :rockOn: The only thing I didn't like was that the bolt doesn't stay open after an empty mag. It's difficult to tell when it's empty and you'll dry fire it, no big deal, I can live with that. (no different from a factory 10/22 that way)

Oh and I recommend stripping the rifle and lightly lubing the inside of the receiver and outer bolt (minus face obviously), it was dry as a popcorn fart in there. Should be standard practice anyway. That would cause stoppages for sure.
 
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puma 22

Purchased one from corlane's.
First the metal mag didn't work, was sent a black dog mag as a replacement.
Tried winchester hv. didn't cycle action. corlane's suggested cci mini mag rn.
worked better. then tried cci stingers. this worked even better but still lots of fte's and ftf's. when cleaning noticed a spot on bolt assembly where it is rubbing on inside of housing. I would not reccommend anyone buy one.
Not following my own advice. Buying another one from SFRC.
A FOOL AND HIS MONEY,ETC,ETC,ETC.
I AM A GUN NUT.I am a bigger gun nut. Bought 2 50 rd metal drum magazines. I can't load both. I can't push down the dummy rds in both mags.
Stripped down both and can see a little lip in the tower of both where dummy rds bring up. Time to dig out the dremal and grind a little metal.lol
Seems like the tension was good but they are binding somewhere.
Tension wize, Blackdog calls for 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 turns for their 50 rd mags, should be close for the metal mags too.
 
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50 American Eagle Hollow Point 38gr - 1 failure to feed
50 Winchester Super X Hollow Point 37gr - zero malfunctions
50 Federal Game-Shok Hollow Point 38gr -1 failure to feed (follower didn't push round all the way up but wasn't jammed in the receiver like the others)

50 CCI Blazer Round Nose 40gr - zero malfunctions
50 Remington Thunderbolt Round Nose 40gr - 1 failure to feed, 1 light strike
50 Federal Champion Round Nose 40gr - 1 failure to feed, 2 light strikes, 1 squib

I had some Winchester Wildcat Round Nose 40gr loaded for the last drum but due to the squib never got to try them. First time that's happened to me!
It seems to be liking the Blazer best so I'm sticking with that.

Lastly, this is one dirty little pig after firing. :D
 
Frank77 said:
Its a great rimfire IMO. Its very short and you can really feel a "recoil" that nice for a .22, it has some punch :p

Drum mag is nice but jams frequently. They come with 30 rounds mag I think, better get 2 of those, they are fully made of metal, no jams there. A friend let me use it for 2 weeks, didn't want to give it back after :p It was the wood stock version.

Great choice!
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X2 on that.
 
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