Pike fishing help?

one of the best way to eat and taste the pike.

our Whynot? ate the classical cream and butter version ....

Quenelles de Brochet
(Pike Quenelles)


Ohio Walleye is a close relative and perfectly suitable equivalent to the French brochet (pike). Its 'Y' shaped bones are difficult to remove but well worth the effort. Pike can be poached in a court bouillon and served with a horseradish sauce or filleted and baked in white wine or cider. Quenelles are perhaps the best-known way to prepare pike. Sauce nantua is the classic accompaniment to the quenelles although any herb-flavored white wine sauce would work well too.

Ingredients for the quenelles :

500g (1 1/8 lb) pike fillet, skinned, filleted and boned
200g (7oz) butter
2 eggs
4 egg yolks

Ingredients for the panade:

125g (4 ½ oz) flour
4 eggs
90g (3 ½ oz) butter
250ml (8fl oz) milk
salt, pepper and nutmeg

Ingredients for the sauce nantua :

1kg (2 ¼ lb) unshelled raw crayfish, prawns or langoustines (or a mixture of the three)
salt and pepper
2 tbs olive oil
20g ( ¾ oz) butter
1carrot
1onion, peeled and finely chopped
½ fennel bulb, finely chopped
100ml (3 ½ fl oz) brandy
400ml (14fl oz) dry white wine
bouquet garni
sprig of tarragon
1 tsp tomato purée
3 tbs Crème fraîche
beurre manie - 100g (4oz) butter to 25g (1oz) flour

Preparation :

Start this recipe the day before it is required.
To make the "panade", melt the butter in saucepan and add the flour and egg yolks. Reduce the heat and pour in the milk, a little at a time, whisking vigorously until you get a soft paste very similar to choux pastry. Add salt and plenty of pepper and a little grated nutmeg and cook for a further 5-6 minutes stirring all the time. Let the mixture cool and refrigerate overnight.

To prepare the sauce, wash the shellfish, add salt and pepper to taste and cook briskly in olive oil for about 2 minutes reduce the heat, cover and simmer for a further 5 minutes. Shell, de-vein and put aside. Retain the shells and heads and process in a blender. Wipe the pan with kitchen roll, melt the butter and add the carrot, onion and fennel. Once soft, add the brandy and set alight. Add the white wine, bouquet garni, tarragon, tomato puree and processed shells. Cook over a moderate heat for a further 10 minutes and season to taste. Remove the majority of the pieces of shell with a slotted spoon and add the beurre-manie a little at a time to bind the sauce.

Add the crème fraiche and sieve.

Stir in the cooked crayfish (for a smooth sauce, liquidize again). Check for seasoning and cool until needed. To make the quenelles, cube the fillets, and place with butter and the "panade" in a food-processor and blend for 3 minutes until it is a fine paste. Put the mixture in a large bowl and incorporate each egg and yolk one by one stirring with a wooden spoon. Pass through a sieve if needed and cool. To shape the quenelles, either use quenelles moulds or take two dessertspoons to shape oval patties from the mixture, ensuring that the spoons are cleaned in a bowl of hot water after each one has been made. Alternatively, use a piping-bag with a large nozzle to make lozenge-shapes. Poach the quenelles for 30 minutes by simmering in a large pan of salted water or fish stock. Remove from the liquid and drain carefully onto a tea towel. If using moulds, place in bain-marie of simmering water in a moderate oven for about 30 minutes. Reheat the sauce and pour onto individual plates place the quenelles on top and garnish to taste or place the quenelles in a gratin dish, cover with the sauce and reheat for a few minutes in to the oven before serving.


©Game & Fish Cookbook – The Game Conservancy Trust - published by Swan Hill Press
 
Outstanding MedvedQC! I hear often of folks that kill a pike then discard it... hopefully this will encourage folks to prepare them for the table ...or if not..then release the fish.
 
I like eating pike just as much as pickerel, it takes a bit to learn how to clean them of the Y bones but they are quite a tasty fish once you learn how to filet them.
 
one of the best way to eat and taste the pike.

our Whynot? ate the classical cream and butter version ....

Quenelles de Brochet
(Pike Quenelles)


Ohio Walleye is a close relative and perfectly suitable equivalent to the French brochet (pike). Its 'Y' shaped bones are difficult to remove but well worth the effort. Pike can be poached in a court bouillon and served with a horseradish sauce or filleted and baked in white wine or cider. Quenelles are perhaps the best-known way to prepare pike. Sauce nantua is the classic accompaniment to the quenelles although any herb-flavored white wine sauce would work well too.

Ingredients for the quenelles :

500g (1 1/8 lb) pike fillet, skinned, filleted and boned
200g (7oz) butter
2 eggs
4 egg yolks

Ingredients for the panade:

125g (4 ½ oz) flour
4 eggs
90g (3 ½ oz) butter
250ml (8fl oz) milk
salt, pepper and nutmeg

Ingredients for the sauce nantua :

1kg (2 ¼ lb) unshelled raw crayfish, prawns or langoustines (or a mixture of the three)
salt and pepper
2 tbs olive oil
20g ( ¾ oz) butter
1carrot
1onion, peeled and finely chopped
½ fennel bulb, finely chopped
100ml (3 ½ fl oz) brandy
400ml (14fl oz) dry white wine
bouquet garni
sprig of tarragon
1 tsp tomato purée
3 tbs Crème fraîche
beurre manie - 100g (4oz) butter to 25g (1oz) flour

Preparation :

Start this recipe the day before it is required.
To make the "panade", melt the butter in saucepan and add the flour and egg yolks. Reduce the heat and pour in the milk, a little at a time, whisking vigorously until you get a soft paste very similar to choux pastry. Add salt and plenty of pepper and a little grated nutmeg and cook for a further 5-6 minutes stirring all the time. Let the mixture cool and refrigerate overnight.

To prepare the sauce, wash the shellfish, add salt and pepper to taste and cook briskly in olive oil for about 2 minutes reduce the heat, cover and simmer for a further 5 minutes. Shell, de-vein and put aside. Retain the shells and heads and process in a blender. Wipe the pan with kitchen roll, melt the butter and add the carrot, onion and fennel. Once soft, add the brandy and set alight. Add the white wine, bouquet garni, tarragon, tomato puree and processed shells. Cook over a moderate heat for a further 10 minutes and season to taste. Remove the majority of the pieces of shell with a slotted spoon and add the beurre-manie a little at a time to bind the sauce.

Add the crème fraiche and sieve.

Stir in the cooked crayfish (for a smooth sauce, liquidize again). Check for seasoning and cool until needed. To make the quenelles, cube the fillets, and place with butter and the "panade" in a food-processor and blend for 3 minutes until it is a fine paste. Put the mixture in a large bowl and incorporate each egg and yolk one by one stirring with a wooden spoon. Pass through a sieve if needed and cool. To shape the quenelles, either use quenelles moulds or take two dessertspoons to shape oval patties from the mixture, ensuring that the spoons are cleaned in a bowl of hot water after each one has been made. Alternatively, use a piping-bag with a large nozzle to make lozenge-shapes. Poach the quenelles for 30 minutes by simmering in a large pan of salted water or fish stock. Remove from the liquid and drain carefully onto a tea towel. If using moulds, place in bain-marie of simmering water in a moderate oven for about 30 minutes. Reheat the sauce and pour onto individual plates place the quenelles on top and garnish to taste or place the quenelles in a gratin dish, cover with the sauce and reheat for a few minutes in to the oven before serving.


©Game & Fish Cookbook – The Game Conservancy Trust - published by Swan Hill Press

That recipe is a keeper thanks
 
Mepps cyclops equals unfair advantage. I have 27 of them. They all work. Orange and fire tiger are the best for Pike. The #0 size that's impossible to find in Canada also makes a nice belly button charm for the wife. Perfectly shaped if she's got a flat tummy
 
Ok, WTF? I tried 5 diamonds, some red spoons and a judder bug and didn't even get a bite. I caught a zebra mussel on the red spoon. I catch crappie and bass all the time at the channel with real minnows which work great, and I sometimes catch them with worms. But as soon as I use fake bait (realistic fake minnows with gulp alive sent) I can't catch crappie or bass. The other guy that fishes there a lot more often then me catches a pike every once in a blue moon with minnows. I don't understand why anything won't bite fake bait. A lot of fish died this winter cause it was really cold. There was tons of carp and catfish on the ice because the sh1t hawks were eating them. Only a few crappie died. There are still tons of carp in the river.
 
Pike are easy to catch when they are present and actively feeding. If they aren't feeding then you should go find some that are. If other people are catching them, you're doing something wrong. If only the occasional one is being caught you're all doing something wrong by staying there.

I've found pike to be very temperature sensitive. The shallow bays and weed beds that worked so well in the spring can shut right down when it warms up too much. When you cant buy a pike in the "classic" spots it is often possible to hammer them suspended at the top of the thermocline or playing walleye at the bottom in 25-30 feet of water. Sometimes they just quit altogether and bunker down to survive. Sometimes you can find pockets of cooler water from under water springs or small cooler spring inflows that reduce the temperature in a small area.
 
i'll second the temperature thing- I use a small thermometer with a weight to ck the temp of the water i'm fishing- anything above 60 , forget it- that's f, not c- 40 appears to be just about ideal-not 40 below - those cold northern rivers where the big ones grow never see 50 f
 
Think of pike as toothy bass, I'll tell you the following and it still won't compute until you see it. They will often be caught in 12" of water, literally almost on shore, right at the edge. A common technique is a frog or mouse lure with protected hook cast on shore, and hopped into the water at the very edge. Even if the water's barely over ankle deep, that's the hottest zone for the easy to catch, smaller pike. If there are lillies work those. We had a Derby and I caught the winner at 11:00pm literally as we were beaching on a shallow beach, made a last cast as a joke. They like weeds, logs, any cover. They're lazy and ambush explosively, big ones can be found in deep water, use a giant spoon (Something 4" long, red and white here in clear water, shiny silver in murky water) and run it medium to fast, action doesn't seem to matter much so experiment.
 
I've caught pike on big Blue Fox and Mepps spinners, Daredevil spoons, Rattlin' Rapala, stick baits, poppers and even buzz baits when fishing for bass. Depends on the location and time of day which I'll use. If I'm fishing pike specifically, I'll try and use lures in the 5"+ range.
 
I still didn't catch a pike. I can't even remember how many times I casted a 5 diamonds spoon. It seems like nothing bites fake bait in my river. I use minnows 12'' deep and I catch bass and crappie all the time, but as soon as I put a gulp alive minnow or any other kind, I don't even get a bite. I caught crappie with worms before. A guy I fish with sometimes catches crappie all the time and he says the odd time he'll catch a pike or a yellow pike. And he rigs it up the same way, minnow, hook and bobber. I just don't go out as often. We sometimes catch catfish and bowfin when going for crappie.
 
I like eating pike just as much as pickerel, it takes a bit to learn how to clean them of the Y bones but they are quite a tasty fish once you learn how to filet them.

yes indeed they are, those big flakes of flesh are very tasty. I scale them and leave the skin on for even more taste.
 
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