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Hey guys. Would a air gun pistol (rifled .177cal) be a reasonable substitute for a .22lr pistol for plinking? I'm kind of getting tired of needing a special ramge and extra membership for restricted firearms. And I can shoot an air pistol in my back yard or farm quite easily. I'm thinking of a semi auto CO2 powered one.

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I am gonna "second" the O.P.'s question. What is a list of good CO2 rifled .177 air pistols (under 500f/s) that can take the place of .22 pistols that need a range. I have a 24' shed that I could use it in for nighttime shooting or winter shooting.
 
There are few CO2 air pistols with accuracy, save the Tau Brno pistols (see D&L Airguns). Another CO2 possibility is the Crosman 2300T. What is best in terms of accuracy is a single stroke pneumatic (SSP) pistol, such as the Weihrauch HW 40 or HW 75. There are others such as the Baikal IZH 46M, a Russian-made entry-level match pistol, but it's impossible to get new because of sanctions on Russia; another is the Webley Alecto, but they've become hard to find also. The Daisy 717 and 747 are SSP's and are carried by D&L Airguns. Post your question on the Canadian Airgun Forum, where there are a lot of knowledgeable folks.
 
I have my restricted and have several center fire pistols but I don't own a rimfire since I am happy shooting my air pistols instead. My favorites are the HW 40 and the HW 45. As for Co2 a lot of people really like the Walther CP88 made by Umarex. It is a very good quality pistol with great accuracy. I have handled one and I was very impressed with it but I don't shoot Co2 pistols since I don't like buying the cylinders. Many others have blowback but personally I see it as a waste of gas and its not a firearm so why try to emulate one?
 
Crossman 2240 (which is .22 pellet, not .177), in its original no-mod shape, out of the... well not box but whatever bubble crap it came in - turned out to be amazingly accurate and consistent and and powerful! Even at 30 meters (not feet!) hits very reasonably for plinking, and at 25 meters is reasonable for targets. At 10m - definitely a target pistol. Single shooter, bolt action, very fast at reloading, so it is not really _that_ slow as other single-shooters.
 
freezer filler said:
Crossman 2240...endless mods available
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I have one too and really enjoy it. I get about 35 shots before the pellets start to drop. I also have an Ishmash 46 M and a Daisy 717 but the Crossman is the one I reach for to do some plinking or to shoot with my grandson. The 2240 costs under $100!
 
Umarex made licenced copy of the S&W 586/686 is the best pellet gun I have ever bought. About $300 but worth every penny. Start off with a Crosman Vigilante and see if you like it first for under $100.

Moe
 
1) Is the 2240 a blowback model? Seems 35 shots is not a lot out of a cylinder.
2) Also, does the Umarex 586/686 copy use those silly looking "bullet inserts"? I wouldn't want to have to pull 6 inserts, reload the inserts, then load the inserts into the gun. Too many steps. (Or is it a rotary mag?)
3) And how many shots at full power does the Vigilante seem to have before "drop off"?
 
From what I've read the 2240 is a .22 cal so that would explain the extra gas use vs a .177 but it is not a blow back.

The S&W uses 10round disc that goes in front of the cylinder.

I haven't looked into the vigilante at all.
 
sgt.rock said:
1) Is the 2240 a blowback model? Seems 35 shots is not a lot out of a cylinder.
2) Also, does the Umarex 586/686 copy use those silly looking "bullet inserts"? I wouldn't want to have to pull 6 inserts, reload the inserts, then load the inserts into the gun. Too many steps. (Or is it a rotary mag?)
3) And how many shots at full power does the Vigilante seem to have before "drop off"?
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Nope. Pellets load into steel cylinders. Accuracy exceeds that of the revolvers that load pellets or BB's into fake cartridges. The valve is superior in these revolvers too and perform much longer without failure and more consistent velocity equalling better accuracy. I get about 60-70 shots out of a 12gm.

Moe
 
Moe said:
Nope. Pellets load into steel cylinders. Accuracy exceeds that of the revolvers that load pellets or BB's into fake cartridges. The valve is superior in these revolvers too and perform much longer without failure and more consistent velocity equalling better accuracy. I get about 60-70 shots out of a 12gm.

Moe
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That sounds really good. I just want to hear from anyone here that owns a vigilante (there is one at my Can Tire now) if it is decent and if accuracy is ok or barndoor bad. I may pick one up today and try it out. If I like it, I will be looking for an Umarex 586 quickly.
 
sgt.rock said:
That sounds really good. I just want to hear from anyone here that owns a vigilante (there is one at my Can Tire now) if it is decent and if accuracy is ok or barndoor bad. I may pick one up today and try it out. If I like it, I will be looking for an Umarex 586 quickly.
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What kind of accuracy are you looking for? There aren't any shortcuts to achieving accuracy with any stock CO2 pistol, with the exception of the Czech-made Tau pistols. Why? The other stock air pistols referred to above all have unforgiving triggers. There's no way around that, unless you are prepared to go the route of modifying something like a 2400. Consider the Chinese-made Weihrauch HW 40 clone, the Beeman P17, which, for $55, is a better fit for accuracy than the stock CO2 pistols, with the exception of the Tau's.
 
Except good old Chinese variable QC P17 as opposed to German HW40 quality and warranty...they aren't the same build quality wise.........Harold
 
I just want to punch paper in my garage and use one of those pellet traps. Not wanting "target bullseye" accuracy but just want to keep it on the paper target (8x10) in front of the pellet trap and not put holes in my walls , guitars, or drumset that also reside in the garage. 3-4" at 10-15 ft would be great for me using pellets. Capable of 3-4"?
 
sgt.rock said:
I just want to punch paper in my garage and use one of those pellet traps. Not wanting "target bullseye" accuracy but just want to keep it on the paper target (8x10) in front of the pellet trap and not put holes in my walls , guitars, or drumset that also reside in the garage. 3-4" at 10-15 ft would be great for me using pellets. Capable of 3-4"?
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If hitting a 3-4" circle at 10 to 15 feet is all you're looking for, then many air pistols will satisfy you. And there's no need to spend much money.

mbogo3 said:
Except good old Chinese variable QC P17 as opposed to German HW40 quality and warranty...they aren't the same build quality wise.........Harold
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This is true. But for 3-4" accuracy at 10-15', quality differences are moot and the P17 is $200 less expensive than the German-made SSP air pistol. It must be noted that the HW 40 is a much better pistol for target shooting than the Umarex S&W 586 .177 revolver and less expensive, too.

Gundoggy said:
Weihrauch HW45 in .22 is an excellent spring powered pistol
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It's the best spring piston air pistol made, whether it's .22 or .177, and at over $500 with taxes it ought to be. As a springer, however, it is challenging to shoot for accuracy but would easily achieve 3-4" accuracy at 15 feet.

Perhaps a Crosman .177 C02 pistol would fit the bill, after all.
 
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