pistol bullet in rifle brass??

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did a quick google and didnt see anything.

my question, I have a 30-30 marlin 336
wondering could I take a 30cal pistol bullet "Hornady 7.62X25 (.308) 86gr SPRN 100/Bag" and reload it into my brass to use for coyotes or plinking?

anyone ever done this before? not sure if it would be to short in overall length or not but just thought id ask some of you pro's
 
Try it. Use BLC2 and work up between 30 and 39 gr. When you find a load that is accurate shoot a few groups to see if any of the bullets blow up. My accuracy load is 2700 fps and have no problems.

The Hornady semi jacketed 100 gr blows up critters real good and is a cheap plinker.
 
I know Berry's made a bullet for 30 carbine that can be used for 7.62x25, 110gr if I remember correctly.

EDIT: Never mind, I thought the OP asked about a rifle bullet in pistol brass.
 
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OldRussian said:
The velocity might rip the bullet apart mid flight, I know you can't use .30 carbine projectiles for .308 for this reason. Are the velocities similar?
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Check with the bullet manufacturer to see if the bullet can handle the velocity and RPM it will experience with the loads you have in mind.
It isn't dangerous to have them come apart as they leave the muzzle but it's pretty useless to try to hit anything with a bullet that fragments leaving the muzzle.

I would just use a 110gr V-max, I have a nice 308 load with them and they seem to be able to handle 3000+fps from a 10 twist barrel.
 
bdiddlez

In the Speer manual they list loads for the 100 grain Plinker and the 110 grain Varminter for the 30-30 in the 2600 fps range. And the same bullets are used all the way up to the .300 magnums.
So go for it and pistol bullets are used all the time in rifles, all you have to do is use the correct load and velocity. Please take notice to use the correct powder that almost fills the case for the best uniformity and safety.


H-4895 reduced loads
http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/Hodgdon%20H4895%20reduced%20rifle%20load.pdf

IMR® TRAIL BOSS® REDUCED LOADS
FOR RIFLE AND PISTOL
http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/Trail%20Boss%20Reduced%20Loads%20R&P.pdf

Below is my favorite fire forming load for the .303 British, a 312 pistol bullet and Trail Boss or SR-4759 powder.

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They even use .357 pistol bullets in the .35 Remington, 350 Remington magnum, 356 Winchester, 358 Winchester, 35 Whelen and they do not come apart when used properly.
 
i have heard of instances where handgun bullets loaded into a rifle case and therefore at high
velocities can shed the copper jacket inside the barrel and leave it there.
The reason being that some handgun bullets have thinner copper jackets designed for lower velocities.
 
colinjw said:
i have heard of instances where handgun bullets loaded into a rifle case and therefore at high
velocities can shed the copper jacket inside the barrel and leave it there.
The reason being that some handgun bullets have thinner copper jackets designed for lower velocities.
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If you look in a few reloading manuals you will see that that is untrue, as stated above they have copper plated lead bullets designed and used in rifles. And I just looked and three manuals I have show .357 handgun bullets used in 35 magnum caliber rifles.
 
My only worry would be you said SPRN which should be Soft Point Round Nose? and you said you'll be using a 30-30 Marlin 336 which is tube fed lever

I would say make sure you flatten those tips or single load them just to be safe
 
Whoever told you Carbine bullets can't be used in a .308 is confused. 110 grain bullets are used regularly in .308. Wouldn't myself, but it's entirely doable.
The lightest bullet for .30-30 on Hodgdon's site is a 110. 100 grain Speer on Alliant's. There's one 93 grain load on Reloader's Nest.
I suspect that 86 grain pistol bullet may be too short for the case to have a decent hold on it, but contact Hornady and ask 'em.
 
OldRussian said:
The higher the velocity the higher the rpm will be. Bother factors are true.
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Depends on the twist rate.


sunray said:
Whoever told you Carbine bullets can't be used in a .308 is confused. 110 grain bullets are used regularly in .308. Wouldn't myself, but it's entirely doable.
The lightest bullet for .30-30 on Hodgdon's site is a 110. 100 grain Speer on Alliant's. There's one 93 grain load on Reloader's Nest.
I suspect that 86 grain pistol bullet may be too short for the case to have a decent hold on it, but contact Hornady and ask 'em.
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I run the 110gr V-max at over 3000fps and in my 24 inch AR-10 with a 10 twist barrel they shoot sub moa. If only I was allowed to use that rifle for varminting.
 
bigedp51 said:
bdiddlez

In the Speer manual they list loads for the 100 grain Plinker and the 110 grain Varminter for the 30-30 in the 2600 fps range. And the same bullets are used all the way up to the .300 magnums.
So go for it and pistol bullets are used all the time in rifles, all you have to do is use the correct load and velocity. Please take notice to use the correct powder that almost fills the case for the best uniformity and safety.


H-4895 reduced loads
http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/Hodgdon%20H4895%20reduced%20rifle%20load.pdf

IMR® TRAIL BOSS® REDUCED LOADS
FOR RIFLE AND PISTOL
http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/Trail%20Boss%20Reduced%20Loads%20R&P.pdf

Below is my favorite fire forming load for the .303 British, a 312 pistol bullet and Trail Boss or SR-4759 powder.

303pistolbjpg_zps9c6de94d.jpg


IMGP3041_zps1f500472.jpg


They even use .357 pistol bullets in the .35 Remington, 350 Remington magnum, 356 Winchester, 358 Winchester, 35 Whelen and they do not come apart when used properly.
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^^^...this

...i use these bullets (among others) in my sks's ...7.62 x 39 (.314 bore) ...not as accurate as sp but are accurate enough
 
condomboy said:
My only worry would be you said SPRN which should be Soft Point Round Nose? and you said you'll be using a 30-30 Marlin 336 which is tube fed lever

I would say make sure you flatten those tips or single load them just to be safe
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I use several round-nosers in several of my levers, no problemo. Just avoid the pointy ones, or use your lever as a 2-shot. Or, use the ones with the plastic points - but i can;t recommend those. I don't get any better accuracy from them, and they aint cheap.
 
I load 110 grain .30 caliber bullets for my Marlin 30-30 all the time. It has a crack like my .243 when I shoot it and does kick a little. Not at all what I expected. I thought it would go pop with little or no recoil.

I never had a problem with the bullets coming apart, but don't know what would happen if you shot a deer with it.

I read an article a long time ago about a guy shooting coyotes and such with the 110 grain bullets with his 30-30 with good success. That's what got me interested in trying them.
 
I use 158 XTP's with light loads in my .358 Win's and .350 RM's... good little plinker loads... good for wackin' wabbits and Wile.E...
 
johnes50 said:
I load 110 grain .30 caliber bullets for my Marlin 30-30 all the time. It has a crack like my .243 when I shoot it and does kick a little. Not at all what I expected. I thought it would go pop with little or no recoil.

I never had a problem with the bullets coming apart, but don't know what would happen if you shot a deer with it.

I read an article a long time ago about a guy shooting coyotes and such with the 110 grain bullets with his 30-30 with good success. That's what got me interested in trying them.
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perfect! I have some 110gr sp rn, i have to work up a load now. always on the hunt for some cheap bullets to shoot, i hate how expensive this can get lol
 
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