Pistol calibre carbine vs. AR15 help me decide
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There's a lot of 9mm on the market right now, and for good prices. If you're into shooting your guns, and not posing with them in front of the mirror, a 9mm carbine would be the way to have maximum fun at your range.
What? It means he doesn't need to buy additional mags for the carbine or necessarily need to load separate ammo for the carbine (assuming one buys a carbine that runs the same caliber and same mags as the pistol, such as a JR carbine that uses glock 22 mags along with their G22)
The ability of using a carbine on a pistol or rifle range is somewhat handy, especially if the range allows or has hanging steel for their members, not to mention the fact you can take the non-restricted versions to the bush or camping.
Many ranges don't allow pistols on the rifle range and rifles on the pistol ranges.
I've shot my JR out to 100m to minute of 'down zero' and better, 150m to minute of 'down 1' and better on an IDPA target.
I think it's safe to say very few shooters with a pistol can do that consistently.
JR carbines and ARs with dedicated glock lowers (lone wolf for sure, others?)
If you handload the difference in cost is minimal between 1000 9mm 124 or 147 grain bullets and the 165 or 180 grain .40 cal bullets.
.40s&w cases are just as plentiful as 9mm brass as well.
The combination of 9mm AR with Glock mags, or a JR carbine, while wearing a Glock has an obvious advantage. Overfilled G22 mags supply both guns, making life easy. You can wear lots of mags around the belt or chest and just reach for the next one regardless of which gun its for. Perform the longer range evolutions with the carbine and the shorter with the handgun.
Opportunities to use them are few, but its an advantage just the same. I rarely have opportunities to exceed 100m, more like 30m and less, so it works for me.
Opportunities to use them are few, but its an advantage just the same. I rarely have opportunities to exceed 100m, more like 30m and less, so it works for me.
I'd ONLY recommend a SU over a AR if you ABSOLUTELY need NR status.... And I'd only recommend the SU Tactical version aswell, ... so far they seem to be good guns.
I have gone through something similar here. I built my own AR about 2 years ago (many parts are not the same though as they are so easy to swap bits and pieces). I shoot primarily on a pistol range; only one is not allowed to have rifle calibers on it. This past year we have had the pistol caliber only range about 85% of the time; the few days I missed at the range we almost always the 15% days. I want to train with a rifle more, but am unable to shoot most of my rifles, hence my interest in a PCC. If I knew this is what was going to happen, I probably would have bought the PCC first, but probably still would have built the AR, just a bit later.
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questar sell pistol caliber ar15's by lonewolf that are made for glock mags.... a little expensive but frankly look at the money you save not having to buy more mags
if not that, another vote for the tnw survival rifle.....
if not that, another vote for the tnw survival rifle.....
Kinda hard to worry about the cost of a $20 pmag when comparing to $50+ for a Glock mag. Even considering he already owns a couple G22 mags we always want more and if having to spend $20 for a pmag is a concern then this may not be the right hobby.
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I've owned a gen 1 sub2000, HK USC, a couple gen 1 Vectors (still own one), and numerous AR's including my 9mm AR and some other non resticted 223's
I've shot my Vector out to 200 yards using the iron sights and rang the gong fairly regularly once I figured out the holdover. That being said it would not be the best choice for competitive shooting unless stages were under 100 yards.
If you just want to have fun ringing gongs at under 200 yards then any pistol caliber carbine will be fine but if accuracy at more than 100 yards interests you then something in 223 would be a far better choice.
Honestly, if I were you and wanted a pcc to match your Glock I would sell your G22 and get a G17 and a Vector in 9mm. The .40 provides no advantage over a 9mm on a range since the paper doesn't care if you have a little more energy and a gong still dings when you hit it with either. 9mm is cheaper to buy and about the same to reload and from a pcc you can shoot just as far with either caliber.
Why not just buy an AR and a pcc? Then you're equipped for whatever you want to do. I'm not sure why so many people act like we can only have one toy, buy them all and if your wife says no maybe it's time to put the pants back on. I own three non restricted 223 semi auto's numerous AR's a pcc, a few pistols as well as a few bolt action rifles. If my wife tried to tell me how to spend my money I'd probably be shopping for a new wife. I'm not saying you need to buy all of it at once or that you should put yourself in financial hardship, I've built my collection over a few years and I've made sure I spend some money on the wife along the way to keep her happy but in the end we are free to own as many toys as we can afford.
No one can tell you what you like, the advantages and disadvantages should be pretty obvious and the costs associated with each choice are easy to see. Buy whichever one you think you'll enjoy the most and if it turns out you need it to do more then buy something else.
