Pistol for Black Badge Course

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Hey, CGNers,

I registered for Black Badge for late August (just missed July's D'OH!) and am planning on using a HK P30L. For those who have experienced the Black Badge course, is there any disadvantage to using an uncommon pistol?

I'm expecting to see mostly Glocks/M&Ps/CZ/1911 with maybe some SIG and Beretta... wouldn't be surprised if I was the only HK and I'd bet a dollar that I'll be the only P30L :D. I think most people will say shoot what you are comfortable with and I agree but just seeing if anyone has any advice to the contrary.

I REALLY should stop eating into my savings but I also wouldn't mind an excuse to go buy a Glock or M&P.

Thanks!
Sammy
 
is there any disadvantage to using an uncommon pistol?
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I would say no, since your not likely to find spare parts, etc at the BB course for any pistol.However if you needed extra mags,etc then if you were shooting with Glock, M&P folks then they may be able to help you out.
 
For the course itself I recommend a pistol without a manual safety and/or hammer. Just that much easier with one that has a trigger only safety and striker. That's just my experience. But if you're very fast and comfortable with the decocker of your hk then you'll be fine. Once you've done your course and your first sanctioned match you can always go back to the hk.
 
Sambaru said:
I'm expecting to see mostly Glocks/M&Ps/CZ/1911 with maybe some SIG and Beretta... wouldn't be surprised if I was the only HK and I'd bet a dollar that I'll be the only P30L :D. I think most people will say shoot what you are comfortable with and I agree but just seeing if anyone has any advice to the contrary.

I REALLY should stop eating into my savings but I also wouldn't mind an excuse to go buy a Glock or M&P.

Thanks!
Sammy
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Just like for cars, you see a lot more hondas than bmws on the road. It's just a matter of availability/affordability. Also use what works for you, not what some champ used to win :slap:
 
Canuck223 said:
Use the gun you're comfortable with.
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#1.. this is a great piece of advice.

I shot the course with a Sig 226 even though I was more accurate with a Glock but I knew the Glock would hurt my hand and finger after two days of shooting. I find the trigger on the Glock hurts my finger and the grip starts to bite into my hand after a few hundred rounds. I could fire the Sig on the other hand all day and the trigger is smooth and doesn't hurt my finger. I'm now nearly as accurate with my Sig as I am with the Glock.

Goodluck, it's a fun course!
Tim.
 
only the decocker/manual safety would be an extra if you're not use to it. otherwise, use what you're comfortable with.....first day, they dont push the pace giving a chance of learning and remember all infos and mandatory safety rules...then,next day they'll push on you to see if you cant keep it togheter under stress.'' load'n make ready'' dont forget to lower the hammer or if SA put the safety on....meaning cocked'n locked.
 
You will do just fine with an H&K P30L. Be there and pay attention, don't worry about what you or others have in their holsters....besides what you have is probably superior to what others have... don't let it get to your head though.. haha.

I know from experience that a H&K p30L is a terrific pistol.

Have fun at B.B.
 
if thats what you have use it. see what others have see if you like how the gun shoots. If you find it doesn't have what you want than think about upgrading.
 
Sambaru said:
Hey, CGNers,

I registered for Black Badge for late August (just missed July's D'OH!) and am planning on using a HK P30L. For those who have experienced the Black Badge course, is there any disadvantage to using an uncommon pistol?

I'm expecting to see mostly Glocks/M&Ps/CZ/1911 with maybe some SIG and Beretta... wouldn't be surprised if I was the only HK and I'd bet a dollar that I'll be the only P30L :D. I think most people will say shoot what you are comfortable with and I agree but just seeing if anyone has any advice to the contrary.

I REALLY should stop eating into my savings but I also wouldn't mind an excuse to go buy a Glock or M&P.

Thanks!
Sammy
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I used the H&K USP and finished first in our friendly matches. I don't see why you'd have a problem...

The P30L is a fantastic pistol, and it should give you great shooting results.
 
Thanks so much for the input, everybody... I still got a few weeks to consider.

I am confident in my ability with the P30L, but the only reason I had any doubt was along the lines of what mildot said.

Thanks again!
 
carsmovies said:
For the course itself I recommend a pistol without a manual safety and/or hammer. Just that much easier with one that has a trigger only safety and striker. That's just my experience. But if you're very fast and comfortable with the decocker of your hk then you'll be fine. Once you've done your course and your first sanctioned match you can always go back to the hk.
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I disagree. You're first qualifier would not be the time to play with a new fuction for the first time. That's exactly what the BB course of for. I think there's really something to be said for using D/A S/A pistols for production class competition (I use a CZ myself) as after you get that D/A shot out of the way, the trigger is much fast and more manageable than the poly striker fired guns with their much longer triggers. I was playing with a fellow competitors XD the other day and couldn't believe how far forward he has to let that trigger reset before being able to shoot again.
 
Contondant said:
I disagree. You're first qualifier would not be the time to play with a new fuction for the first time. That's exactly what the BB course of for. I think there's really something to be said for using D/A S/A pistols for production class competition (I use a CZ myself) as after you get that D/A shot out of the way, the trigger is much fast and more manageable than the poly striker fired guns with their much longer triggers. I was playing with a fellow competitors XD the other day and couldn't believe how far forward he has to let that trigger reset before being able to shoot again.
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I never said that you should switch pistols right after completing the BB course to do your first qualifying match. That split second of being able to shoot the next round isn't gonna make or break your points. What does is accuracy and acquiring the target quickly.
 
carsmovies said:
I never said that you should switch pistols right after completing the BB course to do your first qualifying match. That split second of being able to shoot the next round isn't gonna make or break your points. What does is accuracy and acquiring the target quickly.
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Ok, but I disagree with that last line to a certain degree. A friend of mine at a recent match had to use a Para LDA instead of his usual S/A D/A and he said it affected his time. I've played around with a P226 DAO and I found it really hard to fire accurate controlled pairs. I suppose if one gets really used to his DAO pistol, then he'll learn to fire it quickly in succession, but then again, if one gets equally used to his D/A S/A pistol I reckon he'll do so more quickly.

I have an M&P9 which, in a pinch, I use as a backup pistol to my CZ and there's no way I can shoot it as quickly. Just my opinion.
 
Go with what you know, which is the HK. You will have lots of time to chat with the other guys taking the course about what they are using and compare notes about pistols. If you are comfortable with the HK then go with it, I would say it is not the time to learn a new pistol so close to the course. You will get more out of the course if you are comfortable with your pistol going in to it.
 
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