Pistol primers differents

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Hi,
I just got into reloading and so far had loaded in two calibers 9mm for my CZ75B and 38spl for PPC S&W modified revolver model 10. The problem is, that I'm using Federal smal pistol primers and pretty often my rounds not firing from the first time(sometime from the second time as well ) Now, should I change to different type of primers , or start messing with springs adjasments on the guns?
 
Federal are usually considered the softest cup primers out there so if they are not firing I would guess another brand will not fix the problem. Mybe you could try a hundred Win or CCI, but I would be looking at the gun if it is not stock (springs etc). If the gun is stock, I would clean and lube and try again before ordering parts.

Did you shoot these much with factory ammo? What brands? Did they all fire fine?
 
I wouldn't expect a stock CZ75B to have any problems with any primers on the market. As others have said Federal are considered one of the easiest to ignite.

Couple things to check before mucking with your guns.

First, are your primers properly seated? They should be seated so that they are a little below flush with the case. If flush or above, the primer isn't seated properly.

Second, be careful not to crush the primers when seating them. This is harder to check, but can happen when a primer is forced to deeply into the primer pocket.

By the way what kind of machine are you priming with?
 
mdragon9 said:
I wouldn't expect a stock CZ75B to have any problems with any primers on the market. As others have said Federal are considered one of the easiest to ignite.

Couple things to check before mucking with your guns.

First, are your primers properly seated? They should be seated so that they are a little below flush with the case. If flush or above, the primer isn't seated properly.

Second, be careful not to crush the primers when seating them. This is harder to check, but can happen when a primer is forced to deeply into the primer pocket.

By the way what kind of machine are you priming with?
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On my CZ main sprig changed for #13.
I'm using Lee universal kit auto primer.
 
I agree with the others as well. Federal have long been considered the softest primers available. If you can't detonate the Federal primers, changing brands isn't going to help.

One thing, are you certain your primers were seated fully up into the pocket? The primer anvil must be hard against the back of the primer pocket to ensure the priming compound is crushed when the firing pin impacts the front face of the primer. Dirt in the primer pocket can apparently sometimes lead to misfires 'cause the primer wasn't seated full in.
 
.44spl said:
I agree with the others as well. Federal have long been considered the softest primers available. If you can't detonate the Federal primers, changing brands isn't going to help.

One thing, are you certain your primers were seated fully up into the pocket? The primer anvil must be hard against the back of the primer pocket to ensure the priming compound is crushed when the firing pin impacts the front face of the primer. Dirt in the primer pocket can apparently sometimes lead to misfires 'cause the primer wasn't seated full in.
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I talked to the previous owner,who reloaded for this revolver before and he assure me , that he never had that issue, which leading me to think that I have a problem with the primer seating. BTW , how to be sure that the primer seats right way ?
 
olbar70 said:
I talked to the previous owner,who reloaded for this revolver before and he assure me , that he never had that issue, which leading me to think that I have a problem with the primer seating. BTW , how to be sure that the primer seats right way ?
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if you run your finger over the primed case, it should dip very slightly. if you have some factory ammo, you can feel that compared to yours.

when you use the revolver, will it always work when you fire in single action? i have a light hammer in my 586 that will sometimes light strike in double action, but never single action.
 
Spawn-Inc said:
if you run your finger over the primed case, it should dip very slightly. if you have some factory ammo, you can feel that compared to yours.

when you use the revolver, will it always work when you fire in single action? i have a light hammer in my 586 that will sometimes light strike in double action, but never single action.
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Sometimes ,if it didn't fire first time ,it will go off on the next try on double action or single. But some of them wouldn't fire even with a big dent on the primer (it happened today on the factory load ).
 
Now , when I took the strain screw out of the frame ,it looks like it worn out on the edge (I think , this is not a right forum , should be in gunsmiths one , sorry ). But anyway, maybe somebody can suggest Canadian supplier ? Or everything supposed to be imported from US ?
 
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