Pistol Storage....

Sniper22

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I'm just wondering what's the by-law of proper storing of handguns.
I was looking at CFC website, I couldn't find any, I did search at CGN ...
nothing either .... I must not looking hard enough .... I'm sure alot of
Pro's here would know ....
I asked a couple gun's shop and they said just need a small safe as they
were showing me a gun's safe about 18" tall x 12" deep and made out of
very thin metal and they said can place anywhere in the house ...
A guy from Islington club told me it should be in the lock safe and the
safe should be in the LOCK ROOM ..... ????

ANY INFO .... Please.... and Thanks in advance.
 
The regulations specify that the pistol be rendered inoperative by a locking device, and contained in a locked container. There is no definition or standard in the regulations of what constitutes a locking device or a locked container. There are a wide variety of devices in use.
 
To avoid any undesireable situations with the law it would be best to err on the side of safety. The minimum you should have to store handguns is a lockable commercially available gun cabinet (if cost is important, then a cheapo is enough), and the handguns must be unloaded (remove mags as well) and should have trigger locks on them. It would be advisable to store the ammo separate from the guns and place the cabinet in an area that would be considered "prudent", ie. not in your foyer or living room.
Thats the best "minimum" you can do short of building a "safe" room or vault.
 
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I answered that you couldn't keep a loaded handgun in a safe on my PAL test and was told by my instructor I was wrong!!! I have been under this impression so someone please set me straight. I keep my pistol in a locked case with a trigger lock on, in the safe anyway but WTF!!!
 
Check out this link, you will find everything you need to know:


http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/F-11.6/SOR-98-209/116468.html#rid-116499

Or here it is in black & white:

STORAGE OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS

6. An individual may store a restricted firearm only if
(a) it is unloaded;
(b) it is
(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked; and
(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in
(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked.

STORAGE OF PROHIBITED FIREARMS

7. An individual may store a prohibited firearm only if
(a) it is unloaded;
(b) it is
(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, and, if the prohibited firearm is an automatic firearm that has a removable bolt or bolt-carrier, the bolt or bolt-carrier is removed and stored in a room that is different from the room in which the automatic firearm is stored, that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of prohibited firearms and that is kept securely locked; and
(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in
(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of prohibited firearms and that is kept securely locked.
 
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Thanks for the reply ....

Would be ok if the handguns with trigger lock in the same safe with other
rifles, like some of those rifle safe has a shelve near to the top of it.
 
NAA said:
Check out this link, you will find everything you need to know:


http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/F-11.6/SOR-98-209/116468.html#rid-116499

Or here it is in black & white:

STORAGE OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS

6. An individual may store a restricted firearm only if
(a) it is unloaded;
(b) it is
(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked; and
(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in
(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked.
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That is the exact what I was looking for ... thx.
so the guy at the gun's shop is right ... I guess ....
Trigger lock and in the lock safe .... according to the by-law ....
 
Sniper22 said:
Thanks for the reply ....

Would be ok if the handguns with trigger lock in the same safe with other
rifles, like some of those rifle safe has a shelve near to the top of it.
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Yes you can keep restricted and non restricted guns in the same safe.
 
NAA said:
Check out this link, you will find everything you need to know:


http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/F-11.6/SOR-98-209/116468.html#rid-116499

Or here it is in black & white:

STORAGE OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS

6. An individual may store a restricted firearm only if
(a) it is unloaded;
(b) it is
(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked; and
(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in
(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked.

STORAGE OF PROHIBITED FIREARMS

7. An individual may store a prohibited firearm only if
(a) it is unloaded;
(b) it is
(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, and, if the prohibited firearm is an automatic firearm that has a removable bolt or bolt-carrier, the bolt or bolt-carrier is removed and stored in a room that is different from the room in which the automatic firearm is stored, that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of prohibited firearms and that is kept securely locked; and
(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in
(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of prohibited firearms and that is kept securely locked.
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Essentially, this means that if you keep your restricted firearms in a safe, they can be stored together with ammunition and you don't need trigger locks.
 
capp325 said:
Essentially, this means that if you keep your restricted firearms in a safe, they can be stored together with ammunition and you don't need trigger locks.
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Oh I thought you can NOT store it together with the ammo and trigger lock is a must ????
 
I was looking at this today at CT, the larger size one .... it can easily fits
about 4-6 HG.

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Sniper22 said:
Oh I thought you can NOT store it together with the ammo and trigger lock is a must ????
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Nope, re-read section 6. You cannot store restricted guns together with ammo and trigger lock is a must only if the guns in question are not stored in "a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked".
 
capp325 said:
Nope, re-read section 6. You cannot store restricted guns together with ammo and trigger lock is a must only if the guns in question are not stored in "a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked".
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oh ok, just making sure .... THX.
 
i have a safe and keep my pistol unloaded with no trigger lock and a l oaded mag next to it..i have been told this is legit.
 
target said:
To avoid any undesireable situations with the law it would be best to err on the side of safety. The minimum you should have to store handguns is a lockable commercially available gun cabinet (if cost is important, then a cheapo is enough), and the handguns must be unloaded (remove mags as well) and should have trigger locks on them. It would be advisable to store the ammo separate from the guns and place the cabinet in an area that would be considered "prudent", ie. not in your foyer or living room.
Thats the best "minimum" you can do short of building a "safe" room or vault.
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There is no requirement or reason to remove the magazines.
 
I'd be careful what one consider's to be a "safe". A "safe" to you and me and sold at the retail store may not fall in the category of a "safe" according to the law. It's best to check to ensure what you're buying is a "safe" and not just a cabinet called a "safe".
It's better to be "safe" than sorry:rolleyes:
 
johNTO said:
I'd be careful what one considers to be a "safe". A "safe" to you and me and sold at the retail store may not fall in the category of a "safe" according to the law. It's best to check to ensure what you're buying is a "safe" and not just a cabinet called a "safe".
It's better to be "safe" than sorry:rolleyes:
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I don't believe there is anything in LAW that defines a safe. There are various "standards" set out by UL and CSA as to fire ratings. I think that there are also manufacturer and insurance company ratings as to the security of various types of safes, but again, nothing in law.

The various manufacturers and insurance company ratings can vary as to their own criteria, preferences and their own performance standards.

Bottom line, everyones definition can be different and there is no "right" answer.

For people living in southern Ontario, more secure storage is generally better for the remote chance that something does happen. The Lieberal government and many crown prosecutors are not firearms friendly.
 
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